Bit of truss rod info by kodiakblair here...
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/truss-rod-wrench-size-for-peavey-bass.1522511/
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/truss-rod-wrench-size-for-peavey-bass.1522511/
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U.S. Peavey Club
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I'm 73 come May and if anything is roadworn it's me. I have trouble coming to terms with guys who are proud of their "roadworn" NEW basses.
I mean in a lot of cases bass guitars are roadworn through use, like paint worn through by forearm placement or maple fretboards stained through years of use etc etc...these examples in my opinion are roadworn through daily use and totally acceptable and warrant looking the way they do...well used and great looking.
I have constantly played my 1991 Peavey DynaBass from '91 to current 2024 and the bass looks like it came directly from Peavey yesterday.
I'm proud to say I look after all my gear whether it be guitars or amps, mics, stands etc..all my gear.
Before every use I rub down the paintwork and fretboard on the Dyna using new microfibre type cloths I keep in the case. After a 4 or 5 hour gig I wipe the bass down again to remove fingerprints, sweat dirt etc etc. before putting back in it's case. In hot weather when very sweaty I sometimes wipe the body and fretboard down between sets.
Maybe thats why my equipment, especially the DynaBass still looks brand new after 33 years use.
I'd like to think most of my TB muso mates do the same thing...look after your gear and it will look after you.
Pic of the 33 y.o. Dyna paint work..no blemishes or worn patches through regular wiping before and after use...only reflections on perfect paintwork.
I assume most of you guys follow the same cleanliness system because most of the photos on TB show immaculately kept bass guitars, apart from the bona fide roadworn basses used for years by working bassists.
I mean in a lot of cases bass guitars are roadworn through use, like paint worn through by forearm placement or maple fretboards stained through years of use etc etc...these examples in my opinion are roadworn through daily use and totally acceptable and warrant looking the way they do...well used and great looking.
I have constantly played my 1991 Peavey DynaBass from '91 to current 2024 and the bass looks like it came directly from Peavey yesterday.
I'm proud to say I look after all my gear whether it be guitars or amps, mics, stands etc..all my gear.
Before every use I rub down the paintwork and fretboard on the Dyna using new microfibre type cloths I keep in the case. After a 4 or 5 hour gig I wipe the bass down again to remove fingerprints, sweat dirt etc etc. before putting back in it's case. In hot weather when very sweaty I sometimes wipe the body and fretboard down between sets.
Maybe thats why my equipment, especially the DynaBass still looks brand new after 33 years use.
I'd like to think most of my TB muso mates do the same thing...look after your gear and it will look after you.
Pic of the 33 y.o. Dyna paint work..no blemishes or worn patches through regular wiping before and after use...only reflections on perfect paintwork.
I assume most of you guys follow the same cleanliness system because most of the photos on TB show immaculately kept bass guitars, apart from the bona fide roadworn basses used for years by working bassists.
I think I belong here. PV amps last forever. They sound good. This is mine. There are many like it, but this one is mine:
Peavey Grind into a Peavey Firebass plugged into either an Ampeg 410 Pro or a GJ Neo 410. Love both.
My favorite guitar amp is a PV VK212 with a Marshall 412 added.
My dad‘s old amp is a PV standard with a cab to match. They all work. Werk!
Peavey Grind into a Peavey Firebass plugged into either an Ampeg 410 Pro or a GJ Neo 410. Love both.
My favorite guitar amp is a PV VK212 with a Marshall 412 added.
My dad‘s old amp is a PV standard with a cab to match. They all work. Werk!
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Here's some closeups of my custom Patriot duel SFs volume/blend/tone. The pick guard came with the bass, it looks to be maybe heated epoxy resin on the original guard...? Some nice play ware on the neck, I have no clue why the cig-burn is located where it is, nice aging frost blue body and the added Peavey neck plate for coolness! She weighs in at 9.46 pounds.
Cheers!
Dusty old house...I actually play it a lot!
Here's some closeups of my custom Patriot duel SFs volume/blend/tone. The pick guard came with the bass, it looks to be maybe heated epoxy resin on the original guard...? Some nice play ware on the neck, I have no clue why the cig-burn is located where it is, nice aging frost blue body and the added Peavey neck plate for coolness! She weighs in at 9.46 pounds.
Cheers!
Dusty old house...I actually play it a lot!
Such a beauty with a ton of character! Love that RicRiot! Thank you for sharing @Bleecker!!
How much like a Ric does she sound?
I briefly owned that Sarzo husk, for all of 5 maybe 10 minutes
Fella messaged me years back saying he had a fretless Sarzo for £99, fingerboard had already been fitted, and I had first refusal. Got as far as starting the bank transfer before coming to my senses and backing out
All my Peavey's are in same condition as when I received them into my care or better. I am very careful playing live and try to keep them clean as Giffro does.
My Bongo on the other hand has been constantly gigged since I got her back in the early 2000's and has its share of honest wear including bumps and bruises. Still as reliable as ever but showing her age. Pretty good case of ring rash on the treble side of the neck and a jack that needs regular tightening. I don't like the jack system mounted directly on the pre board. Always worried I'll break something but not so far, fingers crossed. I've also used scotchbrite on the back of the painted neck so many times that the paint is super thin. I will say that the basswood body has held up well with really no denting....which is an oft stated complaint. I feel like I take care of my equipment but over time and constant use it's hard to avoid wear.
My Bongo on the other hand has been constantly gigged since I got her back in the early 2000's and has its share of honest wear including bumps and bruises. Still as reliable as ever but showing her age. Pretty good case of ring rash on the treble side of the neck and a jack that needs regular tightening. I don't like the jack system mounted directly on the pre board. Always worried I'll break something but not so far, fingers crossed. I've also used scotchbrite on the back of the painted neck so many times that the paint is super thin. I will say that the basswood body has held up well with really no denting....which is an oft stated complaint. I feel like I take care of my equipment but over time and constant use it's hard to avoid wear.
@Runnerman There is no way you can avoid some honest wear on any bass guitar you have owned and played for years so congratulations on how well you have kept your Bongo.
As you know from my "road worn" post i put in that it relates to basses already scruffed up to emulate wear and this, to me, new word...reliced basses...similar thing. I just wouldnt buy a new road-worn or reliced bass..i'm old school and like my basses looking as good as I can keep them loll. Bought up that way in the 50's and 60's..look after your toys or you'll have them taken away lollll I guess that kinda stuck.
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Such a beauty with a ton of character! Love that RicRiot! Thank you for sharing @Bleecker!!
How much like a Ric does she sound?
You're welcome!
I'm not sure about the Ric sound, I have never had one in my hands mong enough to know. I believe my controls are different @bigtone23 , not sure if that would make a difference in the sound...?
Cheers!
Grain of salt, 2 cents, IMHO, I'm not a 'Golden Eared Cork Sniffer' etc...
Pots and loading: A stock Ric has a volume and tone for each pickup, which tend to be 330K pots. If using a soloed pickup, there is slightly less loading than the two stock 250K pots on the RicRiot (assuming a 3-way switch--165K vs 125K). However, when using both pickups, the Ric with 4 pots drops to 82.5K and the RicRiot stays at 125K. These are pretty similar values, and I don't give them a lot of weight in the end game of tonality. Rics also use a .0047uF high pass cap on the bridge pickup. I always disable it to get that cool, punchy bridge pickup tone.
Pickups: The Hi Gain pickups are in the general wheelhouse of a Super Ferrite. Not a super hot single coil wind, decent magnets. Putting the pickups in the '24th' and '36th' frets is the key to the signature Ric harmonic sound. Ric copies with Jazz Bass pickups in the right spots sound more Ric. RicRiot pickups are pretty much in those spots. A 1/4" here or there is not a big deal when the pickups are closer to the neck vs the bridge.
Geometry: Rics are 33.25" scale, RicRiots 34. Not a big deal in the bigger picture. 32" Mid and 30" short scale do have a noticeable feel and tonal difference.
Set neck vs screws, various 'tonewoods,' hardware: Somewhat subtle with solid bodies. Science has mostly refuted the sustain/coupling myth of set neck/through body vs screwed. The neck/body resonance interaction is a bigger deal, but that's pretty much left to chance. Rics have a tenuous truss rod, RicRiots don't. Ric has questionable hardware, that odd horseshoe pickup cover that most have to remove and get a mod kit to properly do so, a bridge design that should have been updated decades ago, etc... RicRiots don't play the game of sticking to tradition for sticking to tradition's sake.
Cost: Rics are 4 digit priced. A RicRiot sets ya back less than $500.
Playability: Rics are odd, it can take many test drives to find one that sticks. RicRiots feel like a Peavey that salutes Leo Fender, much more familiar.
All I know is that when I compared my RicRiot to one friend's 2018 4003S and another friend's 1973 4001, they sounded way more similar than not. Sure, playing by oneself in a critical listening situation, one can hear some subtleties, but in a mix, they are indistinguishable. There have been soundfiles posted that used a Jazz Bass and many thought it was a Ric. Look at the Geddy Lee confusion: lots of J in the studio, Ric live. Still sounds like Geddy. Comparing my RicRiot to a Foundation, they do share DNA, but do sound different in terms of the fundamental punch. RicRiot is a little more deep and thick, Foundy is more punchy. However, processing and being in a mix easily makes the water muddy.
I love the sum up sir. Fantastic post! Thank you!Grain of salt, 2 cents, IMHO, I'm not a 'Golden Eared Cork Sniffer' etc...
Pots and loading: A stock Ric has a volume and tone for each pickup, which tend to be 330K pots. If using a soloed pickup, there is slightly less loading than the two stock 250K pots on the RicRiot (assuming a 3-way switch--165K vs 125K). However, when using both pickups, the Ric with 4 pots drops to 82.5K and the RicRiot stays at 125K. These are pretty similar values, and I don't give them a lot of weight in the end game of tonality. Rics also use a .0047uF high pass cap on the bridge pickup. I always disable it to get that cool, punchy bridge pickup tone.
Pickups: The Hi Gain pickups are in the general wheelhouse of a Super Ferrite. Not a super hot single coil wind, decent magnets. Putting the pickups in the '24th' and '36th' frets is the key to the signature Ric harmonic sound. Ric copies with Jazz Bass pickups in the right spots sound more Ric. RicRiot pickups are pretty much in those spots. A 1/4" here or there is not a big deal when the pickups are closer to the neck vs the bridge.
Geometry: Rics are 33.25" scale, RicRiots 34. Not a big deal in the bigger picture. 32" Mid and 30" short scale do have a noticeable feel and tonal difference.
Set neck vs screws, various 'tonewoods,' hardware: Somewhat subtle with solid bodies. Science has mostly refuted the sustain/coupling myth of set neck/through body vs screwed. The neck/body resonance interaction is a bigger deal, but that's pretty much left to chance. Rics have a tenuous truss rod, RicRiots don't. Ric has questionable hardware, that odd horseshoe pickup cover that most have to remove and get a mod kit to properly do so, a bridge design that should have been updated decades ago, etc... RicRiots don't play the game of sticking to tradition for sticking to tradition's sake.
Cost: Rics are 4 digit priced. A RicRiot sets ya back less than $500.
Playability: Rics are odd, it can take many test drives to find one that sticks. RicRiots feel like a Peavey that salutes Leo Fender, much more familiar.
All I know is that when I compared my RicRiot to one friend's 2018 4003S and another friend's 1973 4001, they sounded way more similar than not. Sure, playing by oneself in a critical listening situation, one can hear some subtleties, but in a mix, they are indistinguishable. There have been soundfiles posted that used a Jazz Bass and many thought it was a Ric. Look at the Geddy Lee confusion: lots of J in the studio, Ric live. Still sounds like Geddy. Comparing my RicRiot to a Foundation, they do share DNA, but do sound different in terms of the fundamental punch. RicRiot is a little more deep and thick, Foundy is more punchy. However, processing and being in a mix easily makes the water muddy.
That has the better tuners, super-ferrites, good two-piece neck. Have the electronics been messed with? Obviously, the knobs aren't all stock <edit, whoops, maybe they are>. I would say that's pretty expensive, but everything has gotten so expensive, idk. If it plays and sounds awesome, why not?
If the truss rod moves the neck well, that is a fair price for that Dyna.
Looks like it's in good shape.
My phone won't let me copy the url but it's in the classifieds here!
