U.S. Peavey Club

[Runnerman]

okay...
The foundation is a '92, here is a pic of the headstock showing the truss rod cover and the shape.

The Fury is indeed a '94....here is a picture of the headstock on the left and you can clearly see the shape difference. The headstock on the right is my Gen1 slant SF Fury.

 

[ubernator]

okay...
The foundation is a '92, here is a pic of the headstock showing the truss rod cover and the shape.

The Fury is indeed a '94....here is a picture of the headstock on the left and you can clearly see the shape difference. The headstock on the right is my Gen1 slant SF Fury.

I wonder why peavey would use a one piece on a maple in 1992, unless it was a specific profile for the foundation? Is it gloss or satin on the back? My 93 fury with same headstock shape is 2 piece.

And 1994 must really be a transition year, having tuners, neck and truss rod changes probably in mix and match as older parts stock ran out. But I may be assuming some 2 PC necks were one piece because of the cover, that may in fact be one piece if pictures weren't clear enough to show the split in the middle. And my memory of my original one could be mistaken, and it seems to also remember a maple board that was a slab on top. Basically, I remember the headstock and tree, but am unclear on the rest. I sold it in 98/99.

 

[Runnerman]

The two piece maple neck on my old Fury doesn't have a board on the top just FYI, I assume all two piece necks are this way, especially the baseball bat neck on this one, it's C shaped. The only exception might be a rosewood board but I've never owned a rosewood USA Peavey. The one piece with board necks are D shaped.

Both the '92 Foundation and '94 Fury necks have identical or very close profiles....thickness, width, taper and satin finish all the same. They are almost identical with the exception of the headstock shape. The bodies shapes are also the same. Hardware is identical with the exception of the blacked string tree on the Foundation.

If you look at the side of the neck you can clearly see a board on the one piece necks. The two piece necks don't have a board.

Two piece neck showing no board from the side and second pic shows the seam visible on the fretboard.

The single piece neck from the side.....you can clearly see the board seam....

 

[ubernator]

I just think it is odd that a 92 would be a one piece with separate board yet not be a rosewood fretboard. Only because my 93 fury is a 2 PC. So many changes and variations in the span of a few years.

My foundation is rosewood, but the board is not as thick as your foundation.

I can see why some people would have such large peavey collections. There is so much variation!

One more question, does that foundation have the Les Paul truss rod nut or a hex nut under that cover?

 

[Runnerman]

I just think it is odd that a 92 would be a one piece with separate board yet not be a rosewood fretboard. Only because my 93 fury is a 2 PC. So many changes and variations in the span of a few years.

My foundation is rosewood, but the board is not as thick as your foundation.

I can see why some people would have such large peavey collections. There is so much variation!

One more question, does that foundation have the Les Paul truss rod nut or a hex nut under that cover?

Good question, I've never had it off so I'm not sure. I'm travelling at the moment on business but I'll look when I get home. I expect it to be the same as the Fury because the necks are basically the same. That side view pic of the one with the board is actually the 1994 Fury. It's not as thick as you think because its a closer shot. The neck overall is so much thinner than the 2 piece neck so it's a bit of an optical illusion that the board looks so thick. Another thought too is that rosewood being so expensive, they purposely used a thinner piece.

The 1992 Foundation catalog talks about a two piece neck and actually refers to US Patent 4237044 which is Hartley's 2 piece neck patent so this would imply that at least part of 1992 year had a two piece neck. So with mine having the single piece neck we can say with fairly good certainty that 1992 was the year that the neck construction transition was made on the Foundation.

This seemingly doesn't apply to the Fury, it may have been at bit later, 1993 at least considering your bass. What is the actual serial number of your 1993? I will find the serial of my 1992 when I get home and let's see how close they are.

I'd love somebody like Blair to catalog all the years/models/features of each of their basses in a spreadsheet....I'm such a data nerd.

 

[ubernator]

Good question, I've never had it off so I'm not sure. I'm travelling at the moment on business but I'll look when I get home. I expect it to be the same as the Fury because the necks are basically the same. That side view pic of the one with the board is actually the 1994 Fury. It's not as thick as you think because its a closer shot. The neck overall is so much thinner than the 2 piece neck so it's a bit of an optical illusion that the board looks so thick. Another thought too is that rosewood being so expensive, they purposely used a thinner piece.

The 1992 Foundation catalog talks about a two piece neck and actually refers to US Patent 4237044 which is Hartley's 2 piece neck patent so this would imply that at least part of 1992 year had a two piece neck. So with mine having the single piece neck we can say with fairly good certainty that 1992 was the year that the neck construction transition was made on the Foundation.

This seemingly doesn't apply to the Fury, it may have been at bit later, 1993 at least considering your bass. What is the actual serial number of your 1993? I will find the serial of my 1992 when I get home and let's see how close they are.

I'd love somebody like Blair to catalog all the years/models/features of each of their basses in a spreadsheet....I'm such a data nerd.

I was referring to the thickness of the FB slab itself, the rosewood on my foundation is thinner, similar to my 2k p bass.

I will post most of the serial # when I get home, but at the sheer numbers peavey cranked out, I would assume a good bit of separation. Wish I could date my foundation...

Hartley's 2 PC neck has stood the test of time. Wish they were all made that way.

Anyone have a "3pc" peavey? (2pc maple with a rosewood board)

Would be hard to tell on the dynas or any other painted necks.

 

[PokeyPrasch]

Fury was definitely the bottom of the pile for USA peaveys, especially post 95.

I think the Patriot was at a lower price point than the Fury until it was discontinued, the early 80's Fury with the slanted pickup are a whole different animal IMO than the later USA Fury.
I owned a T-20 for awhile and the Fury felt nicer than that as well. The slant pup Fury is my second favorite from that period, after the T-40 of course.

 

[ubernator]

Patriots and Ts were before my time. I'm not a huge fan of the cutaway shape on the patriot, nor p width necks in general. By the 90s the fury was definitely the cheapest one.

I saw a patriot in the low $100s range on the Craig when I first started looking at Peavey again. I might grab one if I have money when one pops up again. Recently there was a patriot with a foundation neck (happened to be a painted neck same color as body).

A SF foundation or foundation 5 vfl are on my future gas list, but a slant fury/t20/patriot would be nice too.

What was nicer about the slant fury than the t20?

 

[PokeyPrasch]

What was nicer about the slant fury than the t20?

The body shape was more refined and comfortable and the neck fit the body better, the T-20 had a noticeable overhang from the body at the neck joint. (But so do a lot of T-40's I've seen)
Mostly just preference. Still a nice piece of USA Peavey.

Foundations from that era are probably great too, I've never owned one or played one. I bought one once but it disappeared somewhere between the East and West coast via UPS.

Yeah, I don't love a P neck like some guys, I generally play a Gbass at home.

 

[58kites]

Anyone have a 3 piece Peavey? (2piece maple with a rosewood board)

Yes, I have a 1994 Forum neck that is two piece maple with a rosewood fretboard, the truss rod is the Gibson style with brass nut.

EDIT:
My 1992 Fury is two piece maple.
My 1992 Foundation is two piece maple.

 

[ubernator]

Yes, I have a 1994 Forum neck that is two piece maple with a rosewood fretboard, the truss rod is the Gibson style with brass nut.
My 1992 Fury is two piece maple with maple.
My 1992 Foundation is two piece maple with maple.

On those 92s do you mean standard 2pc maple without a separate board, or by "with maple" do you mean they also have a separate fretboard slab?

 

[ubernator]

This seemingly doesn't apply to the Fury, it may have been at bit later, 1993 at least considering your bass. What is the actual serial number of your 1993? I will find the serial of my 1992 when I get home and let's see how close they are.

Fury 060245xx
Foundation 10083xx help! Someone has to have records for the later ones...

 

[Runnerman]

On those 92s do you mean standard 2pc maple without a separate board, or by "with maple" do you mean they also have a separate fretboard slab?

My question exactly...and to clarify terminology @58kites

The two-piece neck is two separate pieces of maple with half the truss rod hole milled into each each side glued together. See my pictures to help identify. There is typically no separate fretboard on maple ones and a clear seam running down the middle of the neck.

The one piece neck is a single piece of maple with the truss rod slot milled into the top of it. The fretboard is glued over the top of the neck sealing the slot.

If you truly have a two piece neck with maple and/or rosewood boards glued on top I would really like to see a picture please.

 

[bassbully]

Patriots and Ts were before my time. I'm not a huge fan of the cutaway shape on the patriot, nor p width necks in general. By the 90s the fury was definitely the cheapest one.

I saw a patriot in the low $100s range on the Craig when I first started looking at Peavey again. I might grab one if I have money when one pops up again. Recently there was a patriot with a foundation neck (happened to be a painted neck same color as body).

A SF foundation or foundation 5 vfl are on my future gas list, but a slant fury/t20/patriot would be nice too.

What was nicer about the slant fury than the t20?

I love my Patriot which is natural ash with a maple neck. It has what is left of a clear coat but it feels like its worn away on most area of the bass. Of all my old Peaveys I had ( fury and foundation) its the only one I kept. Its light weight and has classic P bass tone for days.

 

[gfaulkner]

My question exactly...and to clarify terminology @58kites

The two-piece neck is two separate pieces of maple with half the truss rod hole milled into each each side glued together. See my pictures to help identify. There is typically no separate fretboard on maple ones and a clear seam running down the middle of the neck.

The one piece neck is a single piece of maple with the truss rod slot milled into the top of it. The fretboard is glued over the top of the neck sealing the slot.

If you truly have a two piece neck with maple and/or rosewood boards glued on top I would really like to see a picture please.

These '94 Forums fit that description.Two piece neck and rosewood board.

 

[gfaulkner]

About that 96, is it the type with the bar magnet on the bottom, and the thin red and blue wires, or is it with magnetic pole pieces and the fatter black and white wires?

Here are a few shots of the guts of my 96

 

[kodiakblair]

@Runnerman
If I knew how to do a spreadsheet I gladly would

 

[ubernator]

Here are a few shots of the guts of my 96View attachment 1080539View attachment 1080541View attachment 1080542

Thumbs up! Same guts as my 93. The thick white and black wire 3 wire and foam instead of springs.Definitely not the uber cheap Korean pickup, and all the way out to 96 even! Double regrets to letting my 94 go. Rectified by relic 93 and shiny 91 pinstripe.

That pickup is pretty hot and thick, the 5 wire is a tad less output, and really bright and clear, with a tad less boom, but perfect angry piano sound with fresh (or freshly cleaned) rounds. To be fair, my comparison so far is with a freshly cleaned set of strings on the pinstripe, and a set of the same type that have a few rehearsals and one gig on them, on the 93. I clean them with the pinch and drag 91% iso soaked rag method after each use.

The 91 also has different pots, rear cleanable, and a resistor which I would assume was a bleed, but isn't that supposed to be another cap?

Do you notice the same tonal difference between the 2? Assuming your 88 5 wire is the same as my 91, and 96 the same as my 93.

 

[bigtone23]

Yesterday was a long cold day in Scotland, spent 16 hour fitting out a new bakers shop and it never got
above -3.

Was worthwhile though as when I got home there was a parcel waiting Absolutely terrible thing to try and photograph but this 86 Foundation S has swelled the ranks.View attachment 996792

The folks at MGR Littleton,CO were a great help in getting this to me. It's handed the trip over the Atlantic easily
and just needed tuning up. Still around 3mm play on the bridge saddle grub screws but the buzz free action of 1.25mm
on G and 1.5mm on E is low enough for me

Yet another fine bass from Peavey.

Hey! I played that bass when testing out cabs at that MGR a few months ago! I really liked it, a very cool bass. Considered it for a minute, but held on to my search for a T45.

I did get a really nice 93 Foundation SF last week, I'll post a pic soon and get my number!

 

[Groovybanana]

Heads up for any one looking for a Fury

GC has a black one with a black painted neck, which is fairly rare for only $149. I'd not be sharing this and buying it myself if I didn't already have one

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