U.S. Peavey Club

[bigtone23]

Is there any difference between a neck and bridge pickup for the super ferrites? Mine sounds good but is beat to heck. I was thinking of swapping in a replacement.

Cool Patriot!!
In my experiences with SFs, there are the soapbar ones--found on most everything--and the ones that are like icebergs that look the same from above but have a much larger magnet area under the pickguard--as found on 1st Gen Furys and T-20s. Otherwise, the only difference is the magnet polarity and wind. If you are only using one (like on the Patriot) get any SF and it's fine. IF you have two, get one that is magnetically North up and one that is South up so you can have RW/RP hum cancelling when both are used. You can test this with a simple magnetic compass.

I've been thinking of picking up a Patriot lately. I'm kinda guessing its like a more aggressive P Bass. Does that sound about right?

The Patriot's pickup is located more bridgeward relative to a P bass. The split coil P pickup has more low mids and smoother highs vs a SF. To me, it sounds like a Ric 4001/4003 on the bridge pickup with no vintage/hi pass cap. The Super Ferrite and the Ric Hi Gain pickups are sort of similar--aggressive single coils.
Nerdy side note---Split coil P bass pickups (as well as the split coil on Furys, Foundation S, Dyna Unity and Forum/Forum Plus, Milestones, etc...) are centered at 28.5" from the nut-which amounts to one coil being centered about 28" and the other 29" from the nut. For reference, a J bass neck pickup is about 27.75" and the old school, single coil P pickup is about 27.3". A Foundation/Dyna Bass neck pickup is 28" and the bridge is 32". The Stingray pickup is centered at 30.5" from the nut.

The Patriot pickup is about 29 5/8" from the nut. If you adjust the Ric's 33.25" scale for 34", a Ric bridge pickup is 29 7/8" from the nut. It was because of this pickup location and tonality that I got the idea to add a neck SF to my Patriot to make an inexpensive, yet nice feeling and sounding Ric.
If you center the neck pickup where the '24th fret' harmonic rings out and the bridge pickup at the '36th fret' harmonic, that is the Ric recipe. My "Patriot Plus" (which I call "RicRiot") is absolutely a Ric Killer and tone clone. TBH, I think this is a vastly superior bass to a stock Patriot, but that is colored by my preference for 2 pickup basses. No disrespect to those that love single pickup basses with just a volume and tone (with a tort pickguard and flats for a 2 thumbs up TB approved bass-haha).

If Peavey was to follow suit with their models and offered an upgraded Patriot (perhaps it would have been called the Patriot Plus?), the 2 pickup version would have been cool--it would be their "Ric" offering. I mean, look at the other standard vs upgraded offerings of the era: Foundation/Dyna Bass, Forum/Forum Plus, Foundation S/Dyna Unity, etc...

 

[Chuck M]

"It plays and looks really good for a 35-year-old bass."

Those kind of remarks make me wary. I ask the seller to please describe any wear or damage to the bass and case. Usually they are close to accurate. The last bass I bought was my Peacock Blue Cirrus 6 and the seller said it had no wear or damage. It did come to me with some small marks in the finish and the back of the neck had some small dents. The gold hardware is in wonderful condition and nothing needs to be replaced except for the strap buttons that had been replaced with Schallers.

In the end, you ask questions and sometimes the seller simply lies. I bought a Millennium 5 off Reverb and the seller said it had no wear or damage to it and it was covered with dents and scratches. Reverb finally made the guy give me a refund and pay for return shipping. So then he called me all sorts of #$%#&*%# names.

Most sellers are honest but it is always good to ask questions. So far, I have received only one older Peavey with a neck problem and that was the older Foundation that I bought cheap. I was able to work out the neck issues but it was a challenge.

And, yes, folks the prices of older Peavey USA made basses are on the rise.

 

[bigtone23]

Really anything you buy on the used market is something you're going to have to be a little wary of and the older it is the more dilligent you need to be. For me the #1 thing I look for is the neck. 1st does the truss rod work, is it at the end of it's adjustment. 2nd is the neck itself straight and in good overall shape. I can fix ANYTHING else that could be wrong but a bad neck on something beyond a standard Fender is big deal, and expensive, to fix.

Same here. I have bought more than a few instruments without plugging them in knowing that if there were issues with electronics or hardware, I could fix or replace.
However, a bad truss rod is a deal killer. Funky neck? I have a friend that has used warpedpeck.com on 3 instruments with great success--his basses are still holding strong up to 5 years later. The service costs about $100 total-round trip if you unscrew the neck and send it to him.
That's the excitement of the standard line 83-94 era Peaveys that I like. Most were budget offerings and may not have been cared for as well as a Cirrus. They had many years being bargains and many who might have closeted them for years don't realize they are rising in value. We still get lucky now and again on prices.
I'm also super glad I can work on instruments so those that have been through the ringer can be resurrected cheaply. Nothing better to quiet the mind than a little bass fixin' on a day off. The Dyna 5 that's on the way will need some work, but I got it cheap enough to more than offset the time and trouble. Heaven forbid, it could be fully parted out for a profit.

 

[BassikLee]

If anyone needs one, there is a mis-labelled G-V body on evil-bay right now in the holofleck finish. Not affiliated.

 

[MNAirHead]

If anyone needs one, there is a mis-labelled G-V body on evil-bay right now in the holofleck finish. Not affiliated.

argh.. why do you torment me so?

 

[Raw N Low]

If anyone needs one, there is a mis-labelled G-V body on evil-bay right now in the holofleck finish. Not affiliated.

Very tempting...

 

[BassikLee]

argh.. why do you torment me so?

I thought about it for a minute, as it's entirely possible I might have four brand new NOS G-V necks just chilling.

 

[AudioTaper]

The gold hardware is in wonderful condition and nothing needs to be replaced except for the strap buttons that had been replaced with Schallers.
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Do you need OEM gold Cirrus strap buttons?

 

[Chuck M]

Do you need OEM gold Cirrus strap buttons?

No thanks. I got some already.

 

[TinIndian]

Same here. I have bought more than a few instruments without plugging them in knowing that if there were issues with electronics or hardware, I could fix or replace.
However, a bad truss rod is a deal killer. Funky neck? I have a friend that has used warpedpeck.com on 3 instruments with great success--his basses are still holding strong up to 5 years later. The service costs about $100 total-round trip if you unscrew the neck and send it to him.
That's the excitement of the standard line 83-94 era Peaveys that I like. Most were budget offerings and may not have been cared for as well as a Cirrus. They had many years being bargains and many who might have closeted them for years don't realize they are rising in value. We still get lucky now and again on prices.
I'm also super glad I can work on instruments so those that have been through the ringer can be resurrected cheaply. Nothing better to quiet the mind than a little bass fixin' on a day off. The Dyna 5 that's on the way will need some work, but I got it cheap enough to more than offset the time and trouble. Heaven forbid, it could be fully parted out for a profit.

I sent the neck from my 82 G&L L2KE to the Warpedneck guy and I can't recommend him enough. It is well worth the chance for 100.00 as an alternative to major neck surgery. If it doesn't work you can still go the other route. Mine is still holding 4 years down the road.

 

[58kites]

There are some points I agree with regarding the value of Peaveys. ...... I would be happier than a pig in poo if it was a closet queen but, I know I'm going to have to invest what I paid to make it a permanent member of my stable.

I have bought a number of really clean Peavey basses, and a few player condition as well.
I've paid $40, $60, $100, 2 for $150, $158, $180, $181, $238, $300, $448.
I also made profit on the ones I've sold.
The most expensive, a T45 ($448) showed up here with body finish problems that would require refinish, it went back.
The other most expensive, a T45 ($449) that had too many dings when I got the pics, so I cancelled the order before it shipped.
Of the 10 Peavey basses I've had here, none have had a twisted neck, ski jump, or beat frets.
You may be having a run of bad luck, most old USA made Peavey basses have good necks with working truss rods and can be set up great.

 

[TinIndian]

I have bought a number of really clean Peavey basses, and a few player condition as well.
I've paid $40, $60, $100, 2 for $150, $158, $180, $181, $238, $300, $448.
I also made profit on the ones I've sold.
The most expensive, a T45 ($448) showed up here with body finish problems that would require refinish, it went back.
The other most expensive, a T45 ($449) that had too many dings when I got the pics, so I cancelled the order before it shipped.
Of the 10 Peavey basses I've had here, none have had a twisted neck, ski jump, or beat frets.
You may be having a run of bad luck, most old USA made Peavey basses have good necks with working truss rods and can be set up great.

I agree, I'm sure they are out there but I haven't come across a bad Peavey neck yet. The early ones in particular with the 2 piece construction. Again, I'm sure they are out there because people start messing around when they don't know what they are doing.

 

[Raw N Low]

You may be having a run of bad luck, most old USA made Peavey basses have good necks with working truss rods and can be set up great.

I would tend to agree and I should've clarified that in my statement. I have to remember that I'm severely late to the party - as that tends to be the case with most sleeper products.

I was partially venting my frustration with lazy sellers (GC chiefly), and the current mentality of the "used market".

 

[TinIndian]

I was partially venting my frustration with lazy sellers (GC chiefly), and the current mentality of the "used market".

I hear that. The only thing that keeps GC's Used site viable is the return policy. It is a total crap shoot as to what you will actually get.

 

[MNAirHead]

Black Axcellerator 5
Howdy... I have a friend who is looking to move an Axcellerator 5. It's in fair condition.

Upside is that it's Black(not purple).
Downside is that it needs the trus Hex nut to be swapped out (rounded out)

He's thinking $300.

PM me if you're serious

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Just picked up a fury!

 

[MNAirHead]

fury - which of the generations/types

 

[mb94952]

I've NEVER seen this Dyna bass generation before ! It STILL has the plastic on the covers !!!! OMG !!!!! The store has TWO of them !!!! Like NOS ! (new old stock)
PEAVEY Dyna Bass Black Used | eBay

 

[TinIndian]

So GC can't find the case for the GV I just bought. As a way of compensation they credited me back nearly 100.00. I'm good with that.
In the meantime, I've had in my office a Musicman Sterling 4 case that I grabbed for a bass I had briefly and flipped before the case got to me. I was always going to sell it but never got around to it. Anyway, the GV nearly fit except for the longer upper horn. 15 minutes later with my knife, guess what? It does now! I just need a little material to cover up the exposed areas and I have a hard case for my GV.

If I could only get rid of that embossed Musicman logo!

 

[btmpancake]

If I could only get rid of that embossed Musicman logo!

Ahh but maybe you can, fill in MM lettering with Flexseal until harden or cured then sand to smooth surface then design your own. I have not tried this but just thinking out loud.