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Vertical cab stacking---the only way to play

#301
I stack my 2 aggie 1x12s vertically with the LM II on top. Cutest little rig you ever did see. I have been reading with interest the opinions about the orientations of the cabs. Its been trial and error so far- without a clear winner. One thing for sure, I get less umph if I go vertical, so for those situations where I want a little more clarity and not so much low end, vertical is a good option.
JS
 
#302
buddyro57 said:
I stack my 2 aggie 1x12s vertically with the LM II on top. Cutest little rig you ever did see. I have been reading with interest the opinions about the orientations of the cabs. Its been trial and error so far- without a clear winner. One thing for sure, I get less umph if I go vertical, so for those situations where I want a little more clarity and not so much low end, vertical is a good option.
JS
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When I gigged with my GS112/GS112NT I almost always vertcially stacked them to hear better on stage. Drove them with a TF 550B. I think it is interesting you find less umph vertical compared to horizontal since I never notice that compared to the times I stacked them horzontally. They were a great pair of cabs for the price I got them at...
 
#303
JimmyM said:
I love a good 4-10" myself for the same reason. Tons of punchy low end and crisp highs in one package... Or just go nuts and buy a second 4-10". I believe that counts as vertical stacking ;)
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Like this:smug: :

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It does sound better than this :rolleyes:

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Looks Scarier too!:bassist:
 
#305
I just happened onto this thread. It's wonderful. Thanks, Jimmy, for starting it and providing insights.

And, Bill F, allow me to say publicly that I always enjoy reading your posts. Knowledge, clarity, and a level head...what a guy!

Here's my question, though I know I can use trial-and-error. I've got a pair of Eden D112XLTs.

Three possible ways to go; all have woofs and tweets in their own vertical lines.

1. Both cabs in horizontal orientation.

2. Both cabs vertical, ports up.

3. Both cabs vertical, ports down.

Bill, what would you go with first? I've only used the "wide" stack, though the vertical stacks should help get the sound closer to my ears.
 

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#306
You didnt ask me, but I'll toss in my thoughts ifyou dont mind. Option 3 puts the tweet higher than option 2. Option 3 puts the 12's higher (nearer your ear) than option 1.

Therefore option 3 wins. I dont htink the port position matters unless you are talking a really big cab.

Opption 1 with a tilt back maybe as a runner up?

Too bad they didnt mirror those cabs, huh?
 
#307
All suggestions welcome!

I almost created another vertical stack pic with the ports together, but then I realized the tweeters would be misaligned.

But that is another valid choice I'll throw into the mix. Vertical stack, ports together in the middle, tweeters be damned.

I always have the tweeters set very low, at about 20-25% on the L-Pad. I can even disconnect the tweeter in the lower cab, which will solve the misalignment issue. (Of course, then I'll always have to mark the cabs to know which has the dead tweeter.)
 
#308
I would go with any but #2, but if I did #1, I'd turn the bottom tweeter off and tilt the top cab back, and if I did #3 I'd turn the bottom tweeter off and just run it that way.

Thanks for the nice words, Rick. I thought I had stumbled onto a great discovery only to find people had been doing this for years for the exact reasons I liked it ;)
 
#310
Folks, would anyone care to save me several pages of back reading to answer a specific question?

I was looking for if this thread came to a consensus regarding the tonal affects of comb filtering in a 410 vs a vertical array.

I mean, I read the tech stuff on the web, but it's still hard to summarize to say if it would have more of an overall volume perception, or actually have a more frequency range specific almost EQ'ing affect?
 
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Rick Auricchio said:
Bill, what would you go with first? I've only used the "wide" stack, though the vertical stacks should help get the sound closer to my ears.
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3. Both cabs vertical, ports down. That makes the stack as high and narrow as possible, and the uppermost tweeter as high as possible. Tall, narrow hi-fi 'tower' speakers aren't that way just for looks, they sound better.

Like this :



It does sound better than this



Looks Scarier too!
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If those eight tens were all in the same vertical plane they'd work even better and look scarier still. So much so that you could probably use only six.
 
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Vic said:
Folks, would anyone care to save me several pages of back reading to answer a specific question?

I was looking for if this thread came to a consensus regarding the tonal affects of comb filtering in a 410 vs a vertical array.

I mean, I read the tech stuff on the web, but it's still hard to summarize to say if it would have more of an overall volume perception, or actually have a more frequency range specific almost EQ'ing affect?
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This is a good question. I have noticed a lack of high end off axis when using a 410. I haven't really noticed any low end cancellation, but it could be that I'm not off axis enough to notice.
 

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