I'm following along just fine. Thanks. I still don't think substituting a different shape is as good a solution for uncomfortability as improved technique.
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Warmoth necks
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this makes zero sense. everyone has different shaped appendages and the shape of the neck will have tremendous impact on comfort. ergonomics is a real thing regardless of your thoughts on technique.
i'm REALLY tired today, but i don't see the profile, and that's the shape of the back of the neck, so could make a big difference.
Yes, people are shaped differently. However, I feel that improved technique can do more for pain than finding a shape that's more comfortable. The improved technique will make previously uncomfortable shapes more comfortable.
and as my case has proven this is not true. same technique on 2 different basses with 2 completely different results. and this is long term, not I tried this bass an no pain after 20 minutes. just admit ergonomics is a real thing and pretty helpful to people. or i guess people could just fix their sitting technique in the office so there would be no need for ergonomic chairs. it would be a far greater benefit to them than to get something comfortable for their body.........
Lot's of ways to skin a cat. For me only personally, after 20+ years of playing, I'm more inclined to find a bass that feels comfortable for me rather than trying to re-learn 20 years of habit and muscle memory to fit a bass that is causing me physical pain.
Do you guys think that - in general - Warmoth necks are "chunkier" than fender necks? Like a Warmoth Jazz neck vs a 60s fender Jazz neck - all other things (nut width, frets, etc) being as equal as you can make them?
Now you're refuting points I haven't made. I said X is a better solution than Y. I never said Y is useless or doesn't exist.
Also, you should capitalize the first letter of a sentence, and "just admit" isn't a particularly good debate strategy.
Proper posture absolutely can be beneficial. Maybe more beneficial than an ergonomic chair.
That's a big topic. I don't know if this is the place for that discussion and I'm not an expert. A good teacher would be the best choice for that.
I feel pain everywhere when I play except for the left hand ... I’ll gladly switch my place with yours ...
listen, regardless of punctuation, your first post states that a new neck will be not solve his problems only technique will. you definitely implied Y is useless. I'm not making up points I think you are missing points you made.
I don't think a new neck will solve a problem. It may help, but it's not a solution. Good technique is a solution.
you are wrong. I have first hand experience on how wrong you are and have seen many doctors and physical therapists that agree. not only are you wrong you could negatively impact a persons recovery and future playing ability with your uninformed nonsense.
OP please do not listen to this "gorn" person. if you would like actual improvement find a new neck that feels like a better fit AND work on technique.
I thought we were expressing opinions but you speak with finality as though you're an authority. So I guess you are? Is that how that works? Okay. I concede. OP, listen to this jnuts person.
Good stuff guys!
I'll repost my question incase anyone wants to chime in. I'm actually curious.
I'll repost my question incase anyone wants to chime in. I'm actually curious.
I think Gorn and jnuts are both correct.
I agree with Gorn that improved technique increases relaxation, decreases muscle over-excursion, which results in decreased lactic acid buildup in the arm/hand muscles... which results in less and perhaps even no cramping. Furthermore, tendons begin to travel in more direct, anatomically correct pathways from origin to insertion across joints, thus allowing those wrist and finger joints to act only within their designed axis’.... In other words, less stress on the joints, and less chance to develop arthritis or inflammation that can lead to deformity and/or syndromes such Carpal Tunnel in the wrist.
That said, jnuts is also correct in saying different players will respond to different instruments from an ergonomic perspective. As much as I’ve wanted to play one, I just could not get without left wrist pain when playing a Warwick, whereas I never have any pain playing my Fenders, Sadowsky, MTD, or Smith.
Finally - I agree with pcake and others who suggest that neck thickness (front to back) is a huge factor in hand fatigue. Despite having average-sized man-hands and pretty well-developed technique, I just can’t get along with super-thin necks - I just seem to like ‘em on the chunky side.
YMMV
I agree with Gorn that improved technique increases relaxation, decreases muscle over-excursion, which results in decreased lactic acid buildup in the arm/hand muscles... which results in less and perhaps even no cramping. Furthermore, tendons begin to travel in more direct, anatomically correct pathways from origin to insertion across joints, thus allowing those wrist and finger joints to act only within their designed axis’.... In other words, less stress on the joints, and less chance to develop arthritis or inflammation that can lead to deformity and/or syndromes such Carpal Tunnel in the wrist.
That said, jnuts is also correct in saying different players will respond to different instruments from an ergonomic perspective. As much as I’ve wanted to play one, I just could not get without left wrist pain when playing a Warwick, whereas I never have any pain playing my Fenders, Sadowsky, MTD, or Smith.
Finally - I agree with pcake and others who suggest that neck thickness (front to back) is a huge factor in hand fatigue. Despite having average-sized man-hands and pretty well-developed technique, I just can’t get along with super-thin necks - I just seem to like ‘em on the chunky side.
YMMV
i looked into building a warmoth. i have a jazz bass i played for years until a fretting hand injury. thick necks make my hand cramp now. my main bass now is a ibanez sr. both ibanez and warmoth give there respective neck dimensions on there websites. the warmoth slim taper neck is very close the the ibanez sr dimensions. warmoth is only about a millimeter thicker at the 1st and 12 fret than the ibanez. the warmoth fretboard radius is 10" while the ibanez sr is 12". i prefer a flatter radius than 10" so that was the reason i never went through with the build. and yes the warmoth customer service was very good about answering my questions.
if you can't try out a warmoth slim taper neck go into a music store and find a ibanez sr. it should put you in the ball park of the warmoth slim taper.
if you can't try out a warmoth slim taper neck go into a music store and find a ibanez sr. it should put you in the ball park of the warmoth slim taper.
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Warmoth necks should be on par or perhaps chunkier than Fender necks.
I’ve got a Warmoth neck on my ‘74 jazz bass, and it feels (and sounds) just fine.
I’ve got a Warmoth neck on my ‘74 jazz bass, and it feels (and sounds) just fine.
