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Was there any good punk rock?

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Rock is pushing back with all the strength it can muster without symphonic death metal people being forced to co-operate with industrial goth metal people.

eh wha?

Classical music is healthy in part because it enjoys massive government subsidies around the world. Kind of hard to put the hand out when you an art form that made a name smashing up expensive instruments.
No doubt. This is the heart of the issue. Universities aren't gonna be auditioning students based on having the right anti authority attitude.

Two big concerns are having objective measures of talent etc, 2nd to that is having a genre of music that can that include anywhere between 10-20 musicians.

The school isn't gonna fund a band program so only 4 people can be on stage at a time.

Add to that it don't hurt that the natural sounds of acoustic instruments are relatively pleasant to the ear and do not require sound techs to make it work.



Most people may not watch Sri Lankan field hockey. But plenty of them listen to K Pop.

My point was specifically that people follow the pyramid of talent they are exposed to.

Field Hockey is huge in South Asia.

Dance schools etc are massively popular in Korea.

It use to be middle class suburban kids listened to rock.

Competition can be obnoxious when it is in art, but it serves a function, in the sense it creates a common motivation that is shared and reinforced by a group of people. It's why Ice Hockey is King in Vancouver despite having absolutely no naturally occurring ice.

Watch a movie like whiplash and tell me that movie would have the same affect if it was about a tortured artist trying to sign a deal. It's the competition that gets people's attention.

It isn't remotely a surprise djent is taking out for exactly this reason.

It's all competition with little concern for the audience.



World's moved on. Your options are move with it or spend the rest of your life trying to relive the teenage years. Hopefully with looser trousers.

It ain't binary.

The point is punk etc creates a situation where it becomes that.
 
Instrument sales have never been better. There's literally a market for cheap Chinese made instruments that's doing great nowadays.

So pop quiz, how many 15 year olds does it take to compete with an average TBer in terms of collected musical instruments?

It's being driven by older folk.

Stop trying to argue instrumental music is dead.

Here's how both things can be true at the same time.

Music produced by computers is radically more popular than music played by bands.

When it comes to music played by people who play instruments, rock is crashing.

Whether rock jazz punk funk all of it is doing just fine.

Depends on your definition.

Will my future grand children play rock, very unlikely.

if you asked that same question to my grandparents they'd have a very different answer.
 
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Aside from Djent wha?

Tell me more about how a massive increase in disposable incomes world wide has created a negligible affect on rock.

Well, most countries have their own version of rock and roll. It's a big world. To discover it is quite easy nowadays.

Of course, the global effects of such hybrids may be non existent but their local effect shouldn't be underestimated.

Once again, the world is way bigger than your country, my country and any other one.

Music has no frontiers.
 
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So pop quiz, how many 15 year olds does it take to compete with an average TBer in terms of collected musical instruments?

It's being driven by older folk.



Here's how both things can be true at the same time.

Music produced by computers is radically more popular than music played by bands.

When it comes to music played by people who play instruments, rock is crashing.



Depends on your definition.

Will my future grand children play rock, very unlikely.

if you asked that same question to my grandparents they'd have a very different answer.

No on all counts. $100 Glarry basses aren't being hauled by boomers.

Music made on computers is just newer than the rest. Doesn't mean the rest is dying or dead, see instrument sales argument above.

Most people who start out on bass and guitar play rock. Instrument sales being what they are, people are playing plenty of rock.

It's more likely that your future grandkids will play rock than your grandparents' grandkids actually. These things are cyclical, that's why Jazz is starting to get more popular today. Maybe you should talk to young people and see what they're listening to - you'd be surprised.
 
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