I feel like someone, even someone from Dunlop, said it's a 9v only pedal. But.... Hearing that 18v is better is making me think I might need to risk blowing up my p&p...
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Way huge Pork and Pickle
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I've already risked that.
It didn't blow up.
@johnk_10 peaked under the hood and confirmed it's safe to run it at 18V in another thread.
I know right! I have a new PnP smalls on the way, after buying and selling 4 PLs over the years. This will be the last.
And i already own a russian pickle smalls.
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I had the jhs muffuletta and the ehx Russian reissue and the p&p nails the Russian perfectly. So, given it's cheaper and has a great overdrive that's also very usable on guitar and bass makes it indispensable.
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OK - anybody know if the Pork Loin (NOT the P&P!) can do 18v? It's been my favorite drive for years, but if it can sound even better...
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no, it can't unless you change the main filter capacitor to at lease 25 volts. i've replaced it with a 35 volt one in mine, and for a few TB members that wanted to run theirs at 18 volts to allow more clean headroom.
Is there a notable difference? I've performed your 1 cap mod to the Pork Loin, and if this is as simple as that was, I can likely do this mod as well. My hope would be to make the pedal more dynamic, akin to the tone of the MDB-1. I've been A/B'ing them lately, and while I can get them quite close, the Pork Loin seems "flatter" and less lively in comparison.
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IMO, it's not as simple. you have to completely remove the main PCB and very carefully use a good solder sucker to remove the 100uf cap without damaging the traces and replace it with one rated 25-35V.
here's a pic of the cap:
Yup. Too much for my rather basic soldering skills. Did it make any difference in the tone/feel of the Pork Loin? If it improves it noticeably, I may have a local pedal guy mod it for me.
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I have both. LD has a lot of mids and it mush the attack. P&P is dark and full of lows. LD is better for dark toned basses as it is really bright. P&P has much more of volume, too.
Had a Pork Loin, had a Lucydreamer Bass OD, currently have Pork & Pickle. Agree with above that LD has lota of mids and I found it pretty dark (through my rig at least) since I had to have the tone knob wide open. Def prefer the P&P. Felt more responsive to my fingers, stacked well across the board. Still really dig it. Ymmv, imo, etc.
Juts got one! (Smalls version)
Tweaking it at home sounds good, some findings:
- tone seems to act the same in Od or fuzz (so no “original” muff tone stack for the fuzz)
- clean tone pot goes from flattish (fully open, to mid scoop to BIG bass boost) found two usable settings: fully open for a flattish (2dbs bump in high mids) or 11 o’clock for bass bump)
- fuzz sustain beyond 12 o’clock adds some mid scoop, but as a whole is darker than a russian green muff
- OD sustain gets you very fuzzy beyond 12 o’clock, closing the distance between the os side and fuzz side
overall: great sounding pedal, easy to set 2 great tones with the flick of a switch, BUT, with the dry blend options I wish the muff was treblier or more faithful to a green russian muff!
I can see it in a compact pedalboard, I think for my main board the jive and the ehx green russian will remain, yet to be tested live with band
Tweaking it at home sounds good, some findings:
- tone seems to act the same in Od or fuzz (so no “original” muff tone stack for the fuzz)
- clean tone pot goes from flattish (fully open, to mid scoop to BIG bass boost) found two usable settings: fully open for a flattish (2dbs bump in high mids) or 11 o’clock for bass bump)
- fuzz sustain beyond 12 o’clock adds some mid scoop, but as a whole is darker than a russian green muff
- OD sustain gets you very fuzzy beyond 12 o’clock, closing the distance between the os side and fuzz side
overall: great sounding pedal, easy to set 2 great tones with the flick of a switch, BUT, with the dry blend options I wish the muff was treblier or more faithful to a green russian muff!
I can see it in a compact pedalboard, I think for my main board the jive and the ehx green russian will remain, yet to be tested live with band
