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What beer are you drinking (or rating) II: second bottle

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I use clear and green bottles with my homebrews as usually one of three tester bottles. It's easier to see if there's some sort of bad stuff going on in the bottle.

That being said, it's not a bad rule to avoid clear and green bottles. Green bottles for a saison can add an interesting funk and in a good way! I made a saison about 2 years ago and my tester bottles had a certain funk over the brown bottles (that comparison got me fairly lit up) and I decided if I make another saison, I'd use as many green bottles as I had on hand.

Right, though when you use clear or green glass bottles for homebrewing I take it your brew is probably not seeing much sunlight?
Clear bottles for use as testers seems legit, for the reasons you mention.
 
I use clear and green bottles with my homebrews as usually one of three tester bottles. It's easier to see if there's some sort of bad stuff going on in the bottle.

That being said, it's not a bad rule to avoid clear and green bottles. Green bottles for a saison can add an interesting funk and in a good way! I made a saison about 2 years ago and my tester bottles had a certain funk over the brown bottles (that comparison got me fairly lit up) and I decided if I make another saison, I'd use as many green bottles as I had on hand.

I think the following needs to be considered #1) I've never had a saison, and therefore did not know that, and #2) I'm pretty sure if somebody just tried a heineken and didn't know about the green bottle skunkiness issue, we probably wouldn't have to worry about them trying a saison anytime soon.

I'm curious about saisons though, are they a belgian style?
 
I think the following needs to be considered #1) I've never had a saison, and therefore did not know that, and #2) I'm pretty sure if somebody just tried a heineken and didn't know about the green bottle skunkiness issue, we probably wouldn't have to worry about them trying a saison anytime soon.

I'm curious about saisons though, are they a belgian style?

I might argue that Heinekin wasn't that good in the first place, but that's just me. :p No doubt that green bottles adds DMS (the skunk flavor).

Saisons are Belgian. The easiest way I can describe them is a wit beer on acid and steroids.
 
I might argue that Heinekin wasn't that good in the first place, but that's just me.

I'm not quite sure I'd argue against you, to be honest, I've had a good few bottles of heineken and they've all turned out to be at least a little bit skunky. I'd let it pass, but it happens with every bottle. Actually, while we're on topic of green bottled beer, how is stella artois? I've heard from my non beer geek buddies that it's good stuff, but I refuse to try it given my boycott of AB-inbev.

Warsteiner Dunkle was the last beer that I drank.

I'm still looking for a non-bitter beer. Every beer that I have had has a bitter taste, can anyone suggest a non- bitter beer?

beer is typically bitter, it's imparted from the hops, which are added as a flavouring and preservative to the beer. Most wheat beers typically have less hoppiness in them, and are typically spiced and flavoured with citrus rinds. Also, most light beers, if you would call them beers, tend to be brewed with much less hops as well as most malt liquors are brewed with a minimum of hops, though I wouldn't recommend either of those. Some breweries also make sweet stouts, or milk stouts, which can be flavoured with lactose and chocolate malts, which imparts a creamy flavour and texture, and coffee or chocolate notes respectively.
 
I'm still looking for a non-bitter beer. Every beer that I have had has a bitter taste, can anyone suggest a non- bitter beer?

Maybe a Scottish Ale of some kind. They tend to the less hoppy end of the spectrum.

Hrm, [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] is an interesting spreadsheet thingy that might give you some recommendations.

Actually, while we're on topic of green bottled beer, how is stella artois?

Competent but completely uninteresting, IMO.
 
beer is typically bitter, it's imparted from the hops, which are added as a flavouring and preservative to the beer. Most wheat beers typically have less hoppiness in them, and are typically spiced and flavoured with citrus rinds. Also, most light beers, if you would call them beers, tend to be brewed with much less hops as well as most malt liquors are brewed with a minimum of hops, though I wouldn't recommend either of those. Some breweries also make sweet stouts, or milk stouts, which can be flavoured with lactose and chocolate malts, which imparts a creamy flavour and texture, and coffee or chocolate notes respectively.

Something like a Red Ale might also be good for someone looking for a non-bitter beer. I'd look for something with lots of roasted malt, and very little hops.

To be honest, Im not a big fan of the current beer trend. I love hops, but I think theyre often overused, rather than used wisely. There are a lot of IPAs out there that just go crazy with the hops, and have big IBU (bitterness) ratings, but the IBUs are not always printed on the bottle. For a wonderful example of Hop usage in moderation, balanced with delicious roasted malt, have yourself a Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA. It illustrates the flavor of the hops, without giving you a beer that has to be sipped on to enjoy.
 
Just got back from a beer run with some goodies from Sam Adams including Doublebock and Black Lager. Also picked up some more Hooker Imperial Porter and Liberator; I love that stuff. Found some Sam Smith's Taddy Porter too, at a great price. So not breaking any new ground here but still some good stuff. Skol!
 
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Great with burgers :D
 
From tonight's tasting:

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L-R: Sam Adams Imperial Stout and Doppelbock; Bell's Expedition Stout, 2010 and 2011; Vetter's 33 from 1998; Half Acre Big Hugs; Maredsous Triple; Boulevard Sixth Glass; Boulevard Bourbon Barrel Quad; Sierra Nevada Fritz & Ken's 30th Anniversary Stout; Full Sail Boardhead 2010; New Belgium Clutch; Bear Republic Hop Rod Rye; Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye IPA.
 
I'm not quite sure I'd argue against you, to be honest, I've had a good few bottles of heineken and they've all turned out to be at least a little bit skunky. I'd let it pass, but it happens with every bottle. Actually, while we're on topic of green bottled beer, how is stella artois? I've heard from my non beer geek buddies that it's good stuff, but I refuse to try it given my boycott of AB-inbev.

I liked Stella a few years back when I tried it in Chicago, before it was available here. It was cold and went alright with pizza. I didn't know beer nearly as well back then.

Much like Heineken, it seems to be an entry/gateway to microbrews. The Belgians make a lot of beers and actually sell a lot of lagers, which is about what everyone does. When the Pilsner was discovered, virtually all breweries were more or less forced to make it or go out of business due to sheer demand. That being said, on this side of the pond, we typically don't think that a green bottle lager and Belgian belong in the same sentence.

As far as beer "snobs" go, I'd like to think my palate is at the upper end of average. I may try to get certified as a beer judge some day. I don't think I have an expert palate at this point. That being said, Stella Artois seems to be dominated by off flavors. There are a lot of things going on that I don't like and I can't drink it any more.

I'm not much of a lager guy, so my consumption is probably less than a case of that per year to 4-5x the amount in ales. Moretti's lageris probably my favorite. I like Sam Adams and Boulevard for a Pilsner.
 
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