What Washburn Bass Do You Own (Database)?

[Kitsapbass]

I have some fingerboard oil. It'll be a player. Just needs sone TLC after being neglected for so long.

 

[moonshinegtrs]

Ran across this today. Thought you guys might enjoy the pics.
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Looks like this one will be mine (hopefully, in talks with seller now...).

I've been wanting a B-20 for a long time!

Thanks @10cc for the heads up.


Moonshine

 

[moonshinegtrs]

I got the B-20!

It's a great bass. Neck through, super straight neck, cool color; it's semi transparent but it also has "pearl" in the finish. The action is super low so I'm going to have to set it up to my specs. I haven't plugged it in yet but not worried...

The guy was really cool and interesting; he worked for Washburn in the mid 80's. He said there were various basses around the office and from time to time they would sell them off just to get rid of them(!). As for the color he said that he has never seen this color except for this one, he also said the when they got a bass in that you never really knew exactly what color you would receive... Most likely someone ordered a red B-20 and this happen to be the color that showed up.

He had other basses for sale as well (said he had just sold a B.C. Rich Mockingbird that he had been trying to sell for awhile and was just about to give up on it); he has a Rudy Sarzo, a really nice early Vulture and later model Vulture (this is what he called it, I don't think that's correct). He had several more basses (cased) but I needed to get out of Atlanta as quick as possible due to the traffic situation that was going on (a portion of a bridge collapsed on I-85 in downtown Atl.)

I think another trip to Atlanta may be in order... Soon.

I have wanted a B-20 for a long time... I'm as happy as a little girl.



Moonshine

 

[MEKer]

I got the B-20!

It's a great bass. Neck through, super straight neck, cool color; it's semi transparent but it also has "pearl" in the finish. The action is super low so I'm going to have to set it up to my specs. I haven't plugged it in yet but not worried...

The guy was really cool and interesting; he worked for Washburn in the mid 80's. He said there were various basses around the office and from time to time they would sell them off just to get rid of them(!). As for the color he said that he has never seen this color except for this one, he also said the when they got a bass in that you never really knew exactly what color you would receive... Most likely someone ordered a red B-20 and this happen to be the color that showed up.

He had other basses for sale as well (said he had just sold a B.C. Rich Mockingbird that he had been trying to sell for awhile and was just about to give up on it); he has a Rudy Sarzo, a really nice early Vulture and later model Vulture (this is what he called it, I don't think that's correct). He had several more basses (cased) but I needed to get out of Atlanta as quick as possible due to the traffic situation that was going on (a portion of a bridge collapsed on I-85 in downtown Atl.)

I think another trip to Atlanta may be in order... Soon.

I have wanted a B-20 for a long time... I'm as happy as a little girl.



Moonshine

Beautiful! I am happy for you. Always such a joy to land something you pine after! 1983 per serial number. Give a full diagnosis to us when you have it set up, please. Any idea of the strings you want to use? I am so grateful you posted the pics! They are safely in my archives!

BTW----------our member Fendaholic is looking for a Vulture II! Maybe that's the "other" Vulture he has. Can you give him a holler and ask +maybe get a pic? Fendaholic is lusting for one as you did for your B-20Stage bass.

PS: I just got your B-20 Stage bass on the database list here (back on page 20, post 381). How is that B-70G of yours doing anyways?

 

[OwenC]

No problem, OwenC.
Tell us ...where is your serial number located?

You guys are awesome and the knowledge is even better I appreciate it alot! I found my serial# on the neck of the guitar. The second picture you sent me of the black bass is exactly like mine. The pictures you sent me March 20th.

 

[moonshinegtrs]

As for the B-70G, I haven't done anything with it yet. The electronics being messed up, I just sat it to the side. I have found a bolt on Rudy Sarzo (bolt on neck)model in decent condition; I am thinking about buying it and using the parts to restore mine then sell off the rest of it. Not sure yet...

Since I found the B-20 I am seriously thinking about building myself a B-20 8 string... neck through, some really nice wood and use Bartolini pickups and preamp like the XB 920 basses have.

I see another build thread in my future.


Moonshine

 

[MEKer]

Sorry... I just got back from Seattle.

Here's his craiglist ads:

Vulture Bass
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Here is the other bass, he referred to it as a Vulture but am not sure:
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This one isn't his but I thought I would post it anyway...
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As for the B-70G, I haven't done anything with it yet. The electronics being messed up, I just sat it to the side. I have found a bolt on Rudy Sarzo (bolt on neck)model in decent condition; I am thinking about buying it and using the parts to restore mine then sell off the rest of it. Not sure yet...

Since I found the B-20 I am seriously thinking about building myself a B-20 8 string... neck through, some really nice wood and use Bartolini pickups and preamp like the XB 920 basses have.

I see another build thread in my future.


Moonshine

Heya Moonshine--------Thanks for posting this! I send the contact to fendaholic re the 1979 Vulture II. Also the other red bass seller called a Vulture is a B-40 and for $250 it is a bargain. Great bass. Nice B-70RS as well and as usual, for some reason they command a higher price. Be interested to know how your B-70G saga falls out. And building a B-20-8---man-o=man, you must have some serious skills. Another "gotta keep us updated on that for sure!"

 

[MEKer]

Sorry... I just got back from Seattle.

Here's his craiglist ads:

Vulture Bass
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Here is the other bass, he referred to it as a Vulture but am not sure:
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This one isn't his but I thought I would post it anyway...
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As for the B-70G, I haven't done anything with it yet. The electronics being messed up, I just sat it to the side. I have found a bolt on Rudy Sarzo (bolt on neck)model in decent condition; I am thinking about buying it and using the parts to restore mine then sell off the rest of it. Not sure yet...

Since I found the B-20 I am seriously thinking about building myself a B-20 8 string... neck through, some really nice wood and use Bartolini pickups and preamp like the XB 920 basses have.

I see another build thread in my future.


Moonshine

ATTENTION ABOUT THE VULTURE II on this CL sale!!
I had immediately sent the link to fendaholic and just this morning examined the bass. I must say--forget it (as I just emailed the below info to fendaholic)

1. Look at the neck (on the front) where it joins the body---no binding. It's missing. and is a tad short. It cannot even fill the "neck pocket" which should not be there anyway since the Vultures were NECK-THRU and the back of the bass still shows a neck-thru build. So you say ???, right?

2. BTW: In fact no binding on the neck at all.

3. BTW: Look at the truss rod cover. It has pointy tips.

My points 1, 2 and 3 tell us that is a SCAVENGER fretboard put on this Vulture II neck! What happened? Sheesh.

Wants $900?

last BTW: seller says made by Daion. Hah! :rollnos:
No Daion involved. Either Yamaki or Matsumoku made this.

 

[moonshinegtrs]

ATTENTION ABOUT THE VULTURE II on this CL sale!!
I had immediately sent the link to fendaholic and just this morning examined the bass. I must say--forget it (as I just emailed the below info to fendaholic)

1. Look at the neck (on the front) where it joins the body---no binding. It's missing. and is a tad short. It cannot even fill the "neck pocket" which should not be there anyway since the Vultures were NECK-THRU and the back of the bass still shows a neck-thru build. So you say ???, right?

2. BTW: In fact no binding on the neck at all.

3. BTW: Look at the truss rod cover. It has pointy tips.

My points 1, 2 and 3 tell us that is a SCAVENGER fretboard put on this Vulture II neck! What happened? Sheesh.

Wants $900?

last BTW: seller says made by Daion. Hah! :rollnos:
No Daion involved. Either Yamaki or Matsumoku made this.

Right off let me say that I am in no ways an expert in the history of Washburn instruments...

I think that is just the end of the fretboard; I held that bass and I would of noticed if there was a gap. It is unusual that it has no binding.

I found this one... single pickup but same fretboard style.

Like I said I have no idea what these are.

I agree on the asking price...


Moonshine

 

[MEKer]

Right off let me say that I am in no ways an expert in the history of Washburn instruments...

I think that is just the end of the fretboard; I held that bass and I would of noticed if there was a gap. It is unusual that it has no binding.

I found this one... single pickup but same fretboard style.

Like I said I have no idea what these are.

I agree on the asking price...


Moonshine

Heya Moonshine---The picture above is a Scavenger Bass. And let me add--a RARE one if not an anomaly because Scavengers 99.9% have rosewood fretboards, but factory errors are found here and there. Owner is lucky.

Anyway, here are some handy tips on telling them apart:

1. Scavengers have no neck binding, a split P pup, 2 pots, input jack on front of body and a bridge with roller saddles and BOLT-ON neck with the serial number on the heel plate. If you had the picture of the headstock you'd see a pointy tipped truss rod cover and odds are the serial number would start with 2 letters if 1980-1983 OR end with the letter "E" if 1978-9. The Scavenger was the lower priced of the trio of basses then.

2. Next came the Vulture I with binding, brass-block saddles, neck-thru, input on the bottom edge of the body, the same split coil pickup and 2 pots and rounded tips on the truss rod cover.

3. Lastly we have the top of the line Vulture II with binding, a P+J pickup set with 4 pots plus a pickup switch, neck-thru, input on the bottom edge of the body, rounded tips on truss rod cover and brass-block saddles.
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That CraigsList "Vulture II" has some real problems that grow worse every time I check it. Besides what I already mentioned, it also has a roller saddle bridge (like only a Scavenger), and it also has the jack input on the body front (like only a Scavenger).

Holy Smoke, what a mess. Only three ways to explain:
a. Someone went thru a hassle to turn a Scavenger into a fake Vulture II by putting on a P/J set of pups and the associated wiring. Leaving all else pure tell-tale Scavenger. BUT: That's not it because it has neck-thru AND the serial number is on rear top of headstock like the two Vulture models.

OK, then....

b. Someone took a Vulture II, put on Scavenger fretboard AND THE BRIDGE and either moved the jack input to the body front OR it was put there by factory error, which is quite possible. Cannot imagine why anyone would do that.
(I checked again and what looked originally to me like a gap at the end of the neck is, I now think, merely the thickness of the fretboard's darkness/shadow and since you held it---that confirms my impression now.)

OR, just maybe...

c. Someone at the factory went nuts and combined a Scavenger and a Vulture II just for the heck of it.

That's it, end of story about these basses and this one in particular.
A Scavenger is distinctive.
A Vulture I is distinctive.
A Vulture II is distinctive.
The CL one is a mess.

 

[moonshinegtrs]

Hello, My name is Moonshine and sometimes I can be a crotchety old bastard, especially when hungover and lacking sufficient amounts of coffee...

My deepest apologies to @MEKer .


Moonshine

 

[MEKer]

Okay. I usually stay away from this type of thing but I can't with this.

Dude, You stepped over the line. You sent a nasty email to the guy that has these basses listed on Craigslist. That was wrong. I don't give a crap what you think of him that was not a cool thing to do.

The thing I didn't post about here was this guy has become a good friend. He's definitely not some low class jerk trying to rip people off... He's a really nice guy and we hit it off due to that and him a serious bass collector. He certainly didn't deserve to be pounced on by some guy he's never had contact claiming that he's a rip off or an idiot.

As I mentioned previously, The guy WORKED AT WASHBURN in the early eighties... He was there! I'm not getting into an argument of whose's right or wrong, but I held the bass myself. I promise you I would of noticed if it had been modified.

Here's pic of the back of the single pickup Scavenger I posted earlier... It is a obviously a neck through, yet you say that all Scavengers are bolt on.

He also told some really cool stuff about Rudy Sarzo and his signature bass but it's probably already been posted.

This is a good thread, but Man... ease up on the attitude.


Moonshine

Wow, Moonshine...I DID NOT email this guy. I DO NOT send nasty emails in any event, to anyone, in any fashion. Exactly WHY do you say I did so, please? And yes a Scavenger was made bolt-on neck only. Please look at the catalog page below and the complete description of what a Scavenger has. In my vintage Washie archives and research, I have many more ads and catalogs and between just Scavengers, Vulture I's and II's, over a hundred sample basses collected over the years from global ebay, Reverb, CL vendors, etc. Same thing with all basses and guitars 1978-1985. And I still keep digging and learning because all records were thrown out by US Music in 1987.
1980 Washburn catalog page 3

I am perfectly aware there are many examples of Washburn basses that are anomalies, factory errors and owner mods. I have found Scavengers (and other basses) to come out of the factory with features belonging to another model. So yeah, I have a couple Scavengers in my files that were put on a Vulture I body. That means a factory error. It happens. I have B-40's with SB-40 name plates. I archive them also. And I also archive discrepancies, errors and mix-ups in Washburn ads, catalogs vs price lists, you name it.
The CL bass is a definite anomalie, with features a Vulture II should not have, a Frankenbass to use the term Fender fans do regarding their own brand.

Attitude? I am having no attitude. I am just researching and explaining to our Washburn Club members or anyone else when questions arise.

EDIT: Tell you what. Here's my email: [email protected]
There. The whole frickin' world can email me and I do not care. Please ask your buddy the address from which he got a nasty email.

 

[moonshinegtrs]

This is precisely why I try to keep my mouth shut..

@MEKer , I'm in my shop now but I will PM you tonight .

If I am wrong, I immediately apologize to you for not futher investigating before posting anything.

I will be glad to share with you (privately) what I based this morning's rant on.

I have no beef with you sir, what I did receive came through my business email and the guy, who I do consider to be a friend as well as a potential customer contacted me about receiving an negative email in regards to this thread.

We will talk further this evening.


Moonshine.

 

[MEKer]

This is precisely why I try to keep my mouth shut..

@MEKer , I'm in my shop now but I will PM you tonight .

If I am wrong, I immediately apologize to you for not futher investigating before posting anything.

I will be glad to share with you (privately) what I based this morning's rant on.

I have no beef with you sir, what I did receive came through my business email and the guy, who I do consider to be a friend as well as a potential customer contacted me about receiving an negative email in regards to this thread.

We will talk further this evening.


Moonshine.

roger

 

[moonshinegtrs]

I just sent @MEKer a PM in which I apologized for my earlier post. I am also apologizing here for posting it. I was wrong.

I was sent an email from the seller this morning in which he stated that he had been sent a "very cryptic email", his next sentence mentioned MEKer, but he did not say that MEKer sent the email... I misread it.

Totally inexcusable on my part. Simple as that.

As for the bass in question, Here is his comments...

"FWIW I've owned that bass since probably '86 or so and there isn't a single "mod" to it. The facts are that Washburns were made in a few different factories back then and depending on the "manufacturer" who built them there were subtle differences. The actual manufacturers were also notorious for making design changes that resulted in a lot of "undocumented" tweaks and covered by the "Specifications subject to change without notice" from the dealer agreements.

The more common vultures where the ones with neck & body binding, arch tops, cap veneers over the headstocks covering the skunk stripe and the "sure-track" style of bridge with the brass blocks instead of rollers. I had always heard those were made by Mats. The far less common version was like mine, Flat top, roller bridge, no neck binding, and the headstock shows the "skunk stripe". There were also minor differences in the neck/heel shape and they offered a fretless version with features like mine but don't think they made more than a few of those. To my understanding these were supplied by one of the other manufacturers but I could be wrong about that.

My price is based on actual auction sales which were higher than I expected they would be, in fact I was surprised when I saw the last couple of sales at $800. Based on those results I listed it at $900 knowing someone would come back and offer me $7-750 on craigslist. Plus to be honest with you I'm not sure I really want to sell it yet!"

I am posting what he said because I do believe he knows what he is talking about... I also agree without a doubt that that @MEKer is extremely knowledgeable about Washburn history. I also know that while I do know quite a bit, I'm no where near the knowledge of these two.

I promise to behave from here on out...


Moonshine

 

[MEKer]

I just sent @MEKer a PM in which I apologized for my earlier post. I am also apologizing here for posting it. I was wrong.

I was sent an email from the seller this morning in which he stated that he had been sent a "very cryptic email", his next sentence mentioned MEKer, but he did not say that MEKer sent the email... I misread it.

Totally inexcusable on my part. Simple as that.

As for the bass in question, Here is his comments...

"FWIW I've owned that bass since probably '86 or so and there isn't a single "mod" to it. The facts are that Washburns were made in a few different factories back then and depending on the "manufacturer" who built them there were subtle differences. The actual manufacturers were also notorious for making design changes that resulted in a lot of "undocumented" tweaks and covered by the "Specifications subject to change without notice" from the dealer agreements.

The more common vultures where the ones with neck & body binding, arch tops, cap veneers over the headstocks covering the skunk stripe and the "sure-track" style of bridge with the brass blocks instead of rollers. I had always heard those were made by Mats. The far less common version was like mine, Flat top, roller bridge, no neck binding, and the headstock shows the "skunk stripe". There were also minor differences in the neck/heel shape and they offered a fretless version with features like mine but don't think they made more than a few of those. To my understanding these were supplied by one of the other manufacturers but I could be wrong about that.

My price is based on actual auction sales which were higher than I expected they would be, in fact I was surprised when I saw the last couple of sales at $800. Based on those results I listed it at $900 knowing someone would come back and offer me $7-750 on craigslist. Plus to be honest with you I'm not sure I really want to sell it yet!"

I am posting what he said because I do believe he knows what he is talking about... I also agree without a doubt that that @MEKer is extremely knowledgeable about Washburn history. I also know that while I do know quite a bit, I'm no where near the knowledge of these two.

I promise to behave from here on out...


Moonshine

Look, Moonshine---no promises needed. I cannot claim I have never had a knee-jerk reaction myself on something and been wrong and been in error. And you were defending your friend. I am still in a quandry who would waste time being rude like what happened. In all these years, we have never had a troll member and everybody is quite reasonable. I cannot think it was one of our members. It would have to have been a browser to our thread that liked making trouble.
But that's done with.
Please understand I, and other curious-about-Washburn-history buffs here, try to be detailed and accurate due to all the junk info out there about our Washburns. And never get into "fights" about it. We just dig more. We see a bass and look at every detail. It all adds to the learning.

Right now I have some interesting pieces I'm searching for. Not sure how I will find the answers.
Examples are:
Yamaki started producing Washburn's first electrics in 1978. Just them.
Matsumoku came in mid-1979 (when Yamaki started phasing out on Washburn basses but carried on with the regular guitars for at least a year but I cannot find the drop-off date for Yamaki) and produced Washies until 1985 when they shut down. I'd also like to know last models produced by Yamaki and if their parts were bought by Matsumoku.
Kasuga came next, phasing in 1985 and ending 1989 when Samick got involved. But what was Samick's start date? Are all non "K" serial numbers indicative of Samick and does it start 1988 or 89?
Those are a very few of all I am happily chasing. All great, cool mysteries with an answer somewhere.
Yamaki and Matsumoku, as you know I'm sure, made instruments for a whole bunch of companies...a whole bunch. And production line guys finding an empty parts bin for a particular item, probably on occasion dipped into "others" bins to complete their job. (In fact I am suspecting such a thing on one pot of my SB-40EQ where it has an external ground from a 2-prong pot, versus the 3-prong pot internal grounded. Don't know, but since they are so rare I cannot find someone to look at their own to compare.) And factory errors are kinda cool to find. But they are noticeable.
OK, now I'm off on my rail about research problems--sorry about about that.


Anyway, I'll shut up and say thank you for looking into it and for your gracious apology.
Always regards, MEKer

PS: Vulture II's have some of the best craftsmanship and still retain good value. Here, btw, is a V II fretless I wish I owned. Rare.

 

[fendaholic]

Look, Moonshine---no promises needed. I cannot claim I have never had a knee-jerk reaction myself on something and been wrong and been in error. And you were defending your friend. I am still in a quandry who would waste time being rude like what happened. In all these years, we have never had a troll member and everybody is quite reasonable. I cannot think it was one of our members. It would have to have been a browser to our thread that liked making trouble.
But that's done with.
Please understand I, and other curious-about-Washburn-history buffs here, try to be detailed and accurate due to all the junk info out there about our Washburns. And never get into "fights" about it. We just dig more. We see a bass and look at every detail. It all adds to the learning.

Right now I have some interesting pieces I'm searching for. Not sure how I will find the answers.
Examples are:
Yamaki started producing Washburn's first electrics in 1978. Just them.
Matsumoku came in mid-1979 (when Yamaki started phasing out on Washburn basses but carried on with the regular guitars for at least a year but I cannot find the drop-off date for Yamaki) and produced Washies until 1985 when they shut down. I'd also like to know last models produced by Yamaki and if their parts were bought by Matsumoku.
Kasuga came next, phasing in 1985 and ending 1989 when Samick got involved. But what was Samick's start date? Are all non "K" serial numbers indicative of Samick and does it start 1988 or 89?
Those are a very few of all I am happily chasing. All great, cool mysteries with an answer somewhere.
Yamaki and Matsumoku, as you know I'm sure, made instruments for a whole bunch of companies...a whole bunch. And production line guys finding an empty parts bin for a particular item, probably on occasion dipped into "others" bins to complete their job. (In fact I am suspecting such a thing on one pot of my SB-40EQ where it has an external ground from a 2-prong pot, versus the 3-prong pot internal grounded. Don't know, but since they are so rare I cannot find someone to look at their own to compare.) And factory errors are kinda cool to find. But they are noticeable.
OK, now I'm off on my rail about research problems--sorry about about that.


Anyway, I'll shut up and say thank you for looking into it and for your gracious apology.
Always regards, MEKer

PS: Vulture II's have some of the best craftsmanship and still retain good value. Here, btw, is a V II fretless I wish I owned. Rare.

WOW! What an exciting week we've had here. I was on the road in LA and San Francisco most of this week and didn't check in at all.

First of all, Welcome Moonshine and congratulations on your unique - and beautiful - B-20! It's indeed a rare bird with a unique color.

Also, welcome Kitsapbass. You sure have a great deal of guitar-building talent that will be useful to those of us here who have none.

And while I'm here, Hi, SP_EB4L, please add my new (to me) Force 8 WWB bass from Detroit that MEKer brought to my attention. It was listed on Craigslist for $350 and I got it for $300 (shipping included). It is a perfect addition to my other now-alabaster color Washburns. Here's a photo of the new one: IMG_2614.JPG

I probably screwed up the photo-posting as usual. If so, let me know and I'll try again.

MEKer, thanks for thinking of me when you first learned of the Vulture II for sale on Craigslist. As you know, I've been on the hunt for one to pair with my Washburn Falcon model of Washburn Wing Series guitars.

Of course, when I looked at this Vulture I just saw a Vulture and after looking at it more closely I thought it might be one of those "whacky" strange guitars Washburn is well-known for building likely on Fridays when assembly workers were rushing to leave for the weekend, or on Mondays when they were still nursing a healthy hangover. And this one may be another example.

A couple of weeks ago I bought a Gretsch Broadkaster short-scale bass and that is my monthly bass purchase, so that Vulture II was not in the cards for me which is why I didn't contact this Vulture's seller to find out more about it. But from Moonshiner shared with us, he sounds like a good guy with Washburn inside history in his past.

However, given the interest that it has generated among friends here, I'm curious as to its serial number to see what that tells us.

Moonshiner, given your friendship with the seller, is it possible for you to get that serial number so we can include it in our Washburn archive?

I, for one, think that it's "variations," like Moonshine's B-20's unique color that makes it a very interesting Vulture.

 

[SP_EB4L]

WOW! What an exciting week we've had here. I was on the road in LA and San Francisco most of this week and didn't check in at all.

First of all, Welcome Moonshine and congratulations on your unique - and beautiful - B-20! It's indeed a rare bird with a unique color.

Also, welcome Kitsapbass. You sure have a great deal of guitar-building talent that will be useful to those of us here who have none.

And while I'm here, Hi, SP_EB4L, please add my new (to me) Force 8 WWB bass from Detroit that MEKer brought to my attention. It was listed on Craigslist for $350 and I got it for $300 (shipping included). It is a perfect addition to my other now-alabaster color Washburns. Here's a photo of the new one: IMG_2614.JPG

I probably screwed up the photo-posting as usual. If so, let me know and I'll try again.

MEKer, thanks for thinking of me when you first learned of the Vulture II for sale on Craigslist. As you know, I've been on the hunt for one to pair with my Washburn Falcon model of Washburn Wing Series guitars.

Of course, when I looked at this Vulture I just saw a Vulture and after looking at it more closely I thought it might be one of those "whacky" strange guitars Washburn is well-known for building likely on Fridays when assembly workers were rushing to leave for the weekend, or on Mondays when they were still nursing a healthy hangover. And this one may be another example.

A couple of weeks ago I bought a Gretsch Broadkaster short-scale bass and that is my monthly bass purchase, so that Vulture II was not in the cards for me which is why I didn't contact this Vulture's seller to find out more about it. But from Moonshiner shared with us, he sounds like a good guy with Washburn inside history in his past.

However, given the interest that it has generated among friends here, I'm curious as to its serial number to see what that tells us.

Moonshiner, given your friendship with the seller, is it possible for you to get that serial number so we can include it in our Washburn archive?

I, for one, think that it's "variations," like Moonshine's B-20's unique color that makes it a very interesting Vulture.

Good evening fendaholic!

I did enter your Force 8 WWB in the database but I like to have the date that you bought it and the production year of the bass. Here is some pics of mine (1983 just for 120 $CDN) that is just the opposite color scheme of yours:

P.S. About the pictures of yours, yes! you had screwed up it, it's probably a pictures that is stored in your computer? If it is, you had to use the "Upload File" yellow button situate at the base of the editing box. When you hit that button, another window will open and ask you to find the file on your computer. You probably had used the picture icon on the top of the editing box that is for the images that are already post in internet, as mine that are stocked on Photobucket.

All the best!

 

[SP_EB4L]

Good evening again Fenderholic!

There was an Oscar Schmidt solution to your Gretch Broadkaster, I got one and I love it! Not as fancy but great tone an fun to play.

Here is one that was on Reverb:

 

[fendaholic]

Good evening fendaholic!

I did enter your Force 8 WWB in the database but I like to have the date that you bought it and the production year of the bass. Here is some pics of mine (1983 just for 120 $CDN) that is just the opposite color scheme of yours:

P.S. About the pictures of yours, yes! you had screwed up it, it's probably a pictures that is stored in your computer? If it is, you had to use the "Upload File" yellow button situate at the base of the editing box. When you hit that button, another window will open and ask you to find the file on your computer. You probably had used the picture icon on the top of the editing box that is for the images that are already post in internet, as mine that are stocked on Photobucket.

All the best!

Of course I screwed up loading the photo (as usual), but will try again here.

And leave it to you to get a super deal on your Force 8. I thought a got a great deal with mine, but you - as usual - got a much better deal.

Here are the details you requested: 1) February 20, 2017 - Paid $310 for the bass with shipping, 2) February 27, 2017 Bass arrived via UPS, 3) Serial Number: 846140 which makes it a 1984.

Here are a couple of photos of my Force 8 WWB:

As to the Oscar Schmidtt Delta King bass, I already have one and it sounds great with a full scale neck and very beefy sound. But I've been lusting for a Gretsch bass for a long time and the Broadcaster is in "as new" condition as any used bass could be. I saw it on eBay and learned that was being sold by a music shop within one hour's drive from my home, so I called to arrange a visit to check it out and fell in love and bought it then and there. After all, if a Gretsch Country Gentleman was good enough for Geroge Harrison, then this one if good enough for me.

Here's a photo of my Delta King:

Now my search continues for my elusive Vulture II.

I hope Moonshine can get me the serial number on that Vulture II in Atlanta (I think that's where it was), and more information on that Maple neck Scavenger/Vulture photo he posted. I'm always on the lookout for maple fretboards, but Washburn had precious few of those during the '70s and '80s.