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I don't know, I think it was phenomenal, but horses for courses. I don't think Oppenheimer was better, just different. Honestly, one of the best movies, frame for frame, that I've seen the past couple of years is Bones and All, but it would never make an awards list due to the subject matter. It was beautifully written and acted, and the cinematography and pacing were absolutely stellar.
 
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Award shows have always been a joke. They were started to trick actors into accepting awards instead of better pay, right? I think it's something like that. Either way, Oscar winning movies used to only be really, really good movies, as far as I remember.
 
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WG Plum said:
I don't know, I think it was phenomenal, but horses for courses. I don't think Oppenheimer was better, just different. Honestly, one of the best movies, frame for frame, that I've seen the past couple of years is Bones and All, but it would never make an awards list due to the subject matter. It was beautifully written and acted, and the cinematography and pacing were absolutely stellar.
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Interesting on Bones and All. I'll have to check it out. I don't know why but I have an aversion to Timothée Chalamet. Maybe I'll get over that. Mark Rylance is the opposite and I like him in everything.
Agree and think Barbie over-delivered relative to the source material and what it might have been if it remained the original intended Amy Schumer vehicle. Extra points for things like the Kubrick nod that obviously goes over the heads of the target audience.
 
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I haven't seen very many of the nominated movies. Like in previous years I'll catch most if not all by Oscar night.

I watched The Holdovers a few days ago and thought it was very good.

Gorn said:
Award shows have always been a joke. They were started to trick actors into accepting awards instead of better pay, right? I think it's something like that. Either way, Oscar winning movies used to only be really, really good movies, as far as I remember.
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Having seen just about every Best Picture, I can assure you there are some real stinkers even going back to the 30's.
 
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gln1955 said:
I haven't seen very many of the nominated movies. Like in previous years I'll catch most if not all by Oscar night.

I watched The Holdovers a few days ago and thought it was very good.



Having seen just about every Best Picture, I can assure you there are some real stinkers even going back to the 30's.
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They gave the award to Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Ordinary People beat Raging Bull. This isn't an organization to be taken seriously. It's just worse now than it ever has been. When future generations look back on the movies of the 21st century teens and twenties, it's not gonna look good.
 
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Gorn said:
They gave the award to Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Ordinary People beat Raging Bull. This isn't an organization to be taken seriously. It's just worse now than it ever has been. When future generations look back on the movies of the 21st century teens and twenties, it's not gonna look good.
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"The Great Dictator", as prescient a film as has ever been made, had five noms and won zero for 1940. "Rebecca" won best pic. It is a Hitchcock but not one of his best.

It's the same pattern if looking at the Nobel Prizes for Literature through the years. Iconic works beaten by since forgotten titles.
 
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Gorn said:
They gave the award to Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Ordinary People beat Raging Bull. This isn't an organization to be taken seriously. It's just worse now than it ever has been. When future generations look back on the movies of the 21st century teens and twenties, it's not gonna look good.
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I’m not so sure that future generations will know what movies are or care.
 
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Gorn said:
They gave the award to Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Ordinary People beat Raging Bull. This isn't an organization to be taken seriously. It's just worse now than it ever has been. When future generations look back on the movies of the 21st century teens and twenties, it's not gonna look good.
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An earlier one that has my head hurting is 1969, when Oliver! won over The Lion in Winter.

Over the past 20 years, I'd say the Academy got it wrong about as often as they got it right, but what do I know.
 
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gln1955 said:
An earlier one that has my head hurting is 1969, when Oliver! won over The Lion in Winter.

Over the past 20 years, I'd say the Academy got it wrong about as often as they got it right, but what do I know.
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Here is a question, though - is a non-SERIOUS movie worthy of an Oscar? It seems like people think not. I disagree wifh that premise.
 
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Here is a question, though - is a non-SERIOUS movie worthy of an Oscar? It seems like people think not. I disagree wifh that premise.
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Quite a few best pictures combined comedy and drama. Was Forrest Gump a serious movie? Parasite? I don't think every minute has to be cerebral or depressingly heavy to be a great movie. Back to The Holdovers, a comedy largely, but a thoughtful movie about how people out of their comfort zone can become better individuals.
 
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WG Plum said:
Here is a question, though - is a non-SERIOUS movie worthy of an Oscar? It seems like people think not. I disagree wifh that premise.
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I think there are plenty, especially comedies. And yeah, horror never gets recognized. I've been complaining since it was released that Hereditary didn't get nominated. It has all the elements of an Oscar winner, but it's horror, so forget it.
 
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