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Who's rocking two fifteens, no tweeters?

old peavey with 3015s... much better than the 410HLF i was gigging

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Wow!,
that's a Peavey? Looks like an awesome cab, great design. What speakers have you got in there?
 
One thing I've noticed since going to a 215 rig is the off-axis performance of a 215 rig is better than I thought it would be. You do get some beaming, but I think it probably does less beaming than a tweeterless 410 or 810. Beaming's a moot point if you mic it into a PA but it's nice to hear your higher freqs onstage when you hop around a lot.
 
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Wow!,
that's a Peavey? Looks like an awesome cab, great design. What speakers have you got in there?

it is an old shallow peavey 215, from 60s/70s i believe. i loaded it with eminence kappalite 3015's after much research on cab design and speaker specs. i added the side casters for loading/unloading along with a top grab handle and a side bottom handle. for an old peavey, it is fairly light and in great shape. i really dig the sound i get from this cab.:bassist:
 
One thing I've noticed since going to a 215 rig is the off-axis performance of a 215 rig is better than I thought it would be.


i agree. when i was using a 410, it always sounded very directional. i used to jack EQ around 2k just to hear what i though was "my sound", probably killing everybody with every pop. one day at practice i sat on the floor while playing... im glad i did, cause it sounded like crap. i could never get an enjoyable tone from that cab. now with the 215 i EQ flat and may use the bright function depending on if im using the P or the J or how old my strings are. now i wont make anybodys ears bleed and will be heard more accurately by more people.

my point is that the 15s seem to throw more high mids farther side to side, even with a lower beaming frequency standard (~1100hz?)
 
Oh yeah ...

When not using my stacked 1x10 Minis, I jump up to stacked 1x15s.

With the 1x10s I usually use a Mark Bass LMII or a Genz 6.0 but with the 15s,
either a Mesa Big Block 750 or a GK 800rb.



;) ... No tweeters not even with the 10s
 
I turn the tweeter off in my Eden 4x10 and my Peavey 4x12 has no tweeter. No mud, but they are not 15's...obviously. I have been craving a 15 cabinet for a long time and this thread is just the boost I needed to dive in.....Great rigs.
 
I've owned 3 2X15 cabs and they were great cabs (1 Road with Fanes and 2 older Ampegs with JBLs). Great cabs, no tweeter needed. Not exactly a hi-fi cab, but with a good amp (back then I used an SVT or an Acoustic) and a Precision they sounded fantastic.
 
I'm considering getting a couple of compact Ashdown ABM 115 cabs, both for the sake of portability and my love of that driver. Specs say frequency only goes to about 4k.
A few points. First, no fifteen goes to 4kHz with adequate dispersion. Axial response doesn't count when output drops 6dB if you move 6 inches to either side. :scowl:
Realistically 2kHz is the best you can expect with adequate dispersion. I wouldn't run a fifteen higher than 1.5kHz myself. Using a fifteen with a tweeter that comes in at 4kHz leaves a midrange response hole wide enough to drive an 18 wheeler through, so IMO doing so makes no sense whatsoever. If you do need higher response with useful dispersion than a fifteen will give you'll only get it with a true midrange driver.

That said, if you like the sound of fifteens alone there's nothing wrong with running them alone. I can't imagine running one without a mid driver, but I have the advantage of having used fifteens and sixes/eights. Since that option is about as common as a solvent automobile manufacturer the average player wouldn't have any frame of reference to judge whether it's something he should look into.