To the contrary. You apparently care so much that you are willing to hurl insults and names at those who choose to play these instruments.
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why are some fenders made like this
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To the contrary. You apparently care so much that you are willing to hurl insults and names at those who choose to play these instruments.
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Oteil Burbridge, one of the best bassist on the planet, uses a Fender Road Worn with the Allman Bros and the Tedeschi Trucks band in front of tens of thousands of people on a regular basis. Anyone who thinks Oteil is a poser has no business even being near a bass, let alone giving advice on them.
I'll clarify this for those that haven't bothered to read the rules.
Relic or relic owner bashing is NOT permitted here. It is simply a finish choice- no different or more fake than any other painted finish. You need to "earn" a distressed look just as much as you need to "earn" a red finish. In other words, you don't.
I'll clarify this for those that haven't bothered to read the rules.
Relic or relic owner bashing is NOT permitted here. It is simply a finish choice- no different or more fake than any other painted finish. You need to "earn" a distressed look just as much as you need to "earn" a red finish. In other words, you don't.
Munjibunga said:
I've wondered about the "scratch and dent" roadworn Fenders that Musicians Friend sometimes has in stock. Aren't they supposed to be like that?
The neck on every Fender RW bass I have ever played like BUTTA'...
I don't own any relic-ed basses but some of them look great to me...YMMV.
I don't own any relic-ed basses but some of them look great to me...YMMV.
It's a non-factor for me. I don't see them much anyway.
No need to hate. Just don't participate.
No need to hate. Just don't participate.
+1
I loved the one I played so much I bought a RW neck from Reliable Fender and put it on my nice shiny Jazz body. It is the best playing neck Fender makes. I took off the reliced tuners and sold them for more then the new chrome Hipshot Vintage tuners cost. I do like the fact that it already has the little dings in it and the cigarette burn. Now I do not worrie about putting dings in it and I can shove my smoke under the E string.
Does that make me only 50% poser????
This - I will also add that although I highly doubt I'll ever buy a RW Fender because I'm not into the whole relic thing, I've checked out a few of them, and they all played, sounded, and felt very good...
As I always say, to each their own...
- georgestrings
After thinking about gear this afternoon I think a Roadworn Fender is a good idea ...
think about it, when you will scratch/ding your bass ... it won't be as heart breaking as when you scratch/ding a mint bass for the first time... you may not notice it !
think about it, when you will scratch/ding your bass ... it won't be as heart breaking as when you scratch/ding a mint bass for the first time... you may not notice it !
The Road Worn are very nice instruments. It's not the "worn" part that makes them good, it's the craftsmenship and setup. They would sound and play just as good without the relic job.
Sorry but the feel is not there on the poly painted ones. The necks just feel great as does the body.
It is the feel of the bass that makes them so nice. If all the the people that put down the RW's were blindfolded and handed one to play they would change their mind.
Judge a bass by it's feel, tone and playability. Not looks
I own a roae worn jazz and I'm planning on refinishing the body with just a dark stain. And a black pick-guard. The bass fits like a glove and plays great. Paid just under 900 for it.
Oh also gonna add a series parallel switch. Gonna sound FAT.
My alure to the instrument is how it plays and sounds.
Oh also gonna add a series parallel switch. Gonna sound FAT.
My alure to the instrument is how it plays and sounds.
I usually avoid these RW rehash threads like the plague .. but its 95 degrees outside and killing time before I need to go do yard work, so I ended up in here ...
... just a quick question before this thread gets shut down .. would you care to direct me to WHERE I can find 'the same guitar without the faux wear on it' for anywhere near the same money??
... BTW, I have owned several of the Classic Series 60's Jazz, played '62 AVRI's, and even owned and toured with an actual '66 oval tuner Jazz with dots/no binding back around 1970... and for the life of me, I haven't been able to find what you are telling me I can ... so if you could direct me to it, I would be happy to pick one up, just so I didn't offend anyone that presumptuously thought I was trying to imply/pretend that I might have actually owned/played the real thing 40+ years ago ... thanks
Well, some of those poser basses are going for thousands, so I'd suggest starting at American Musical Supply. It shouldn't be too hard.
hdracer said:
Most sensible post here. I used to have a 60's non-RW jazz and, while it sounded good, when I tried a RW off the wall, there was no comparison. The RW, as others have mentioned, is the best value in the whole Fender lineup.
My apologies to any I offended. I shouldn't be posting after returning from the post gig party in a somewhat less than clear-headed state. Play what you like. There are no rules or absolutes. My opinion is just my opinion. Rock on 
I don't care how AMAZING it plays, I'm not paying extra cash to have it "pre-beat up". You can get basses that are just as "amazing" without the extra cost for the relicing. It's just as phony as putting a Fender decal on a Squier bass to me.
But, if that's what you're into, more power to you. It just holds absolutely no appeal to me.
I've owned many Relic CS Fenders, as well as NOS CS Fenders, and I own several Pre-CBS Fenders with a lot of wear that I didn't cause. I like em all. I think the Relic CS basses feel better and actually sound a little better than the NOS CS Fenders. Maybe because the finish is thinner and duller, letting the body breathe more. I don't know.
On a side note, I tried to sell a Custom Shop NOS P bass made in 2001 that had actually been gigged a ton over the years. The finish had cracked and the metal parts were corroded, just like a Relic Fender. I couldn't sell the damn thing. It was a great bass, and had the wear to prove it. But I bet if the COA said "Relic" on it instead of "NOS", then I could have sold it easier.
On a side note, I tried to sell a Custom Shop NOS P bass made in 2001 that had actually been gigged a ton over the years. The finish had cracked and the metal parts were corroded, just like a Relic Fender. I couldn't sell the damn thing.
It was a great bass, and had the wear to prove it. But I bet if the COA said "Relic" on it instead of "NOS", then I could have sold it easier.
Ironically, this is in fact the reason I don't get the 'mojo' appeal of genuine relics of unknown progeny. To me it's like handing me a grimy old dollar bill that's been who knows where - yuck
I can see investing in a collector's item, but otherwise I'll make my own memories thanks.
When Fender was replicating the wear and gashes on signature instruments, like SRV's Strat, or Jaco's Jazz, I was in total awe. Then it became common production line finishes, that really took some of the "wow" out of owning a true road worn bass. Fender really sucked the life out of, and cashed in their own legacy, IMO.
