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Why did you quit a band?

What is DGARA? In any event, I hope it doesn't cast any clouds over the situation with the main band.

Oops, think I've got it: DGARA = 'doesn't give a rat's ...'

Duh ...

You got it! :=D

That's the weird part. We gig 7-8 times a month with the other band. This new project doesn't overlap any music and is intended as a once per month type schedule. We all get along fine and enjoy every gig.

For whatever reason, he's probably regretting starting up the new project but reluctant to just pull the plug as the two other members are feeling its their passion project.

I just don't want to do anything half ass and I'm feeling like that's what's coming.

Anyway, it will resolve itself Sunday. We have Friday and Saturday gigs with the other band, so I'm looking forward to those at least.
 
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I quit my last band (and the retired from playing) due to excessive alcohol and drug use by 3 of the 5 members, to the point it impaired our gigs (leader/guitarist would call out a tune and then start playing a different one, drummer forget where we were in a song, etc).
 
Have quit two bands. One because life changed and I was moving away. That was a known departure and an easy transition as the band had time to find a replacement. The second was a group that wanted to be something but certain parties didn't want to put any work in to get there. After a while it was simply not worth the time and effort
 
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I didn't quit. Actually, none of us "quit". We were all young GIs, stationed overseas, in the early 1970s. Unless the Air Force let you extend your tour there, it was only for 18 months anyway, So, at best, the band was always going to have a very short half-life. We were a pretty good bar/cover band; we were all friends; and we had a very good time. But, nothing lasts forever; especially if you enjoy it. We all went our separate ways, and I never saw any of them again. Probably because they probably just did their initial 4-year enlistment, then left the military - and I stayed in for 24 years... :cool:
 
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I'll have to let you guys know after Sunday.

Broad strokes:

Start-up project.

Guitar player is in my main band for 9 years and is a great player and like a brother.

We've been rehearsing this start-up for months and the Guitar player still hasn't learned the songs- prefers to half-ass it.

Have a gig Sunday, and it's a make or break for me.

It's so weird because he's a talented player, and this start-up was his idea, but he seems like he DGARA. We've all spoken at length on this.

So if the performance is a bomb, I'm out of the start-up. I put in the work to excel, as have the other folks. I'm not willing to stay in a situation with anyone not willing to put in the work.

UPDATE:

That guy made me worry for nothing. We had a great gig. Not flawless for anyone, and typical first gig (for any project) mis-cues, but it went really well. Got rebooked so it looks like we're off and running.

Thanks for following along.
 
BL/guitar player was unconscionable, far too many issues to list...

I just couldn't endure him anymore.

Apparently I'm not the only one- for decades, literally every few months he's got different people. :D

What I endured was more than just what another musician would (which was plenty), we bumped heads in the PA/running Sound dept.

If PA equipment (we're talking passive system with rack gear), especially EQs could get restraining orders, he'd not be allowed within ten feet of a PA system. :D
 
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Here's a list of reasons why I've left bands.
Guitarist/Singer/Band Leader in any and all combinations...
Problems encountered: Ego centric muscle thugs, schizophrenia, paternal misogynism, overt eccentricity, substance abuse, gadgetry bamboozlement, JAM mentality, narcissistic personalities and/or traits, reactionary behaviour, consistently inconsistent, hygiene issues, 4th Riech fervour/fanaticism, laziness, tardiness, clumsiness, drama queens and volume wars.

The only other reasons for leaving bands include distance; to far (2hr drive) and not liking the song choice...admittedly I only joined the band because, I was single, nothing else was happening and they needed a bassist.
 
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My previous…way previous post…addressed a subset of issues that are prolific in this thread. It involved my not-so-recent, but recent to me band.

There are two other “whys” that come to mind.

The first? I left because I was about to be involved in a divorce (had minimum to do with music hobby…though the hobby may have been a contributor at some level). I needed to remove that perceived area of occasional compensation and downsize my equipment. Also, the nature of the band as a variety band was wearing thin with me. We had a great start, regular gigs that paid reasonable money if the band was frugal about logistics and amenities. Opportunities were winding down and being “only the bassist” in that arrangement meant that my recommendations fell upon the deaf/unconcerned ears of the band leader. So, as the gigs dematerialized and my change of marital status became imminent…I announced my resignation. Our lead vocalist and really the powerful draw was also going through his own marital crises and forthcoming medical issues that still plague him to this day. It was a “have to do this” decision. Though quite awhile ago to folks here, it is a recent memory to me.

The other instance isn’t so much leaving the band as relinquishing the “co-band leader” responsibilities in another band. It was an interesting band that started out to be a really cool Rock unit…power trio plus lead vocalist/front person. For the local work, while smaller venues still existed and supported such music (they really do not now…or maybe the “crowd” doesn’t support it any longer…leading to the demise of the venues), it was pretty exciting during the “honeymoon stage”. It started to “bloom” when we started working on original tunes that were conceived by the frontman. BTW, we had a fantastic percussionist at the time. Deep roots in music, great personality and he and I locked it up. However, the music the frontman created had a “country”…almost “bluegrass” vibe as he originally introduced them. No insult, but I am not a fan for that when it comes to the nature of the band we had. Our lead guitarist, a long time friend and band mate and co-leader took it upon himself to bring the compositions around to what our band preferences were all about. That worked well and we created some cool stuff. We recorded a bit of stuff for promo, then our percussionist got laid off his (Sprint corporate job) and had to move back “home” with his wife and soon to be born child. The drummer who owned the recording studio decided to join us for gigs after that. Good vibes and powerful performances. However…and thanks for hangin’ in this long…

The lead singer would show up mere minutes before we were scheduled to play at local clubs. The drummer, despite his credentials, would show up with just enough time to set up and do a “just before” gig start sound check. All of the logistics for everything fell upon the co-leader guitarist and me for all the other schlep work of the gear…we supplied our own PA and lights. Further, getting all people together for rehearsals and gigs was becoming a real challenge (like my first post on this thread). So…I held a meeting and said I no longer wanted to be the band leader and the lead guitarist supported my decision. Needless to say, things didn’t last much longer.
 
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Just quit one today, actually... Side-band that I've been in for about 6 years now, Irish-rock band along the lines of Flogging Molly, Young Dubliners, Pogues, etc.

The drummer was the main driving force behind my decision to leave, but not the only reason. Ultimately it's a time commitment that I just can't make between my 9-5 job, family/home life, and my regular working band that's gigging on average 2x per week. The Irish band wants to practice once a week, even though we have maybe 4-5 shows per year, and is definitely a "hobby" band. Contrast that to the working band, where we don't rehearse at all, and everyone involved is a very high level player.

Even if there weren't time constraints, the drummer's behavior and playing on a gig this past Saturday night was the final straw for me. I was about to describe him as a rudimentary player, but I'm fairly certain he doesn't know rudiments... so I'll just refer to him as an incredibly basic player. Drops the beat constantly, tempo is all over the place, etc. I've asked him before if he practices to a metronome and 1.) he doesn't practice outside of when the band gets together, and 2.) he said a metronome throws him off... Dude, you're already off! Maybe it'll throw you ON!

Anyway, I've never seen the guy play without getting incredibly stoned, which is whatever, but if you're gonna do that you better be able to hang! We were about to start our final set and he comes up asking how much time he has left. I said none, but one of the other band members made the mistake of telling him we had 2 minutes left. He proceeds to go outside and smoke more weed.

He relies on the kindness of the rest of the band to get his gear not only into the venue, but to get set up as well. Seriously, dude does not even set up his own drum kit most of the time. Has no bags for anything other than the drums themselves, and has one small milk-crate for some smaller hardware. Everything else gets carried in piecemeal.

We were asked turn down twice in the first set, but he continued to just beat the ever-loving **** out of his drums and specifically his cymbals.

He makes changes to his patterns which make absolutely no sense: He'll start a build in the middle of a verse that NO ONE is onboard for or following, will drop out the kick/snare completely to do something on the ride, fills that just flat out sound bad, etc. He puts no thought behind is playing, but heaven forbid if you try and talk to him about it. According to him he knows a LOT about drumming and percussion.

He spilled two drinks on his kit over the course of the night.

Dropped several f-bombs over a hot mic between songs (he sings on a few tunes, but we can't always get to the board to mute his mic between his songs). Which, isn't always inappropriate, but this place gets most of its business as a restaurant and really isn't set up well as a live music venue. The dinner crowd doesn't want to hear that. All of his banter is just super cringey. Additionally he'll just scream randomly into the microphone during songs.

Probably over 90% of the setlist are songs we've been playing for 6 years now (even more for the rest of them), and he still doesn't know how half of them start, specifically the ones that start with him!

I've never seen him tune his drums, and they sound like garbage. Pretty sure all of his brass is borrowed, but also sounds pretty bad.

I'm sure I could think of more, but that's plenty enough to get the picture. I spoke with the defacto bandleader and he's pretty much had it too. This show on Saturday cost me a pretty good chunk of change too since I couldn't play a really good gig with the working band.
 
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I have quit a few bands that ran their course. For me, it’s why did I not join a group? I’ve auditioned with many groups and said no thanks. Why? We all know you need a certain level of comraderi and if it’s not there I don’t join. I try not to be desperate or naive or too optimistic and join situations that have a short shelf life. Life is too short to be stuck in a no fun, stressed out, disfunctional band. I’m good at seeing what’s ahead and just not getting on the train to begin with.
 
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I did it in a pretty unprofessional way. After being frustrated for a very long time working with no setlist (and other things I doubt many of you would put up with) I had enough. It was a shared gig with a band that was really prepared. They did a great job. We got up and fumbled around with lots of dead air and the worst material we had. It was awful.

On top of this I felt terrible and unbeknownst to me was a couple of days away from a quadruple bypass surgery. We fulfilled the obligation and even though the venue wanted us to play more I got my stuff and left. I quit in a text conversation the next day and haven't looked back.
 
I have quit a few bands that ran their course. For me, it’s why did I not join a group? I’ve auditioned with many groups and said no thanks. Why? We all know you need a certain level of comraderi and if it’s not there I don’t join. I try not to be desperate or naive or too optimistic and join situations that have a short shelf life. Life is too short to be stuck in a no fun, stressed out, disfunctional band. I’m good at seeing what’s ahead and just not getting on the train to begin with.
This.