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Wishbass Club pt. 2

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"The fantasy shape is more comfortable than I had imagined it could be, I'm growing quite fond of it."

Speaking of shapes, it's funny to me how these shapes can really grow on you. I would have NEVER thought I would like the Lobe, the JB or the Fantasy. Now, I am hooked! I have noticed though, with the JB that the sharp lower left body point really is uncomfortable on the bottom of your right arm - to the point where I think I am going to have to modify it since it makes for a stand-up playing position only. I really hate to change the charactor of the thing, but I think I am going to have to soften it a bit, or something. Hmmmm ....
 
Thunderitter, it was your photos and the great look of the mahogany back of #837 that made me jump on #946 which is mahogany/mahogany. That and the purpleheart fingerboard. Thanks for the inspiration.

I may not go as sharp as you on the points! The fantasy shape is more comfortable than I had imagined it could be, I'm growing quite fond of it.

=wr=

Talking about comfort doesn't the bottom horn make a great rest?:D
 
So it's all put back together, and I am very pleased. As I posted earlier, I didn't go all out on the body, I corrected lots of bumps and odd joins. I had to do lots of work on the back of the neck. This one was a mess, and I am very happy with the feel of the neck. I was able to correct the fingerboard with only a radius sanding block, checking often with a straight edge. Final finish is with Tung oil.

So I finally got to really play it tonight, even if only for 10 minutes. No buzzing or dead spots, medium low action, and a yet another very different tone from the others. With the upper horn reaching so high, it sits on the strap very differently from any other bass I own. I think I like that?

After installing active EMG's of various models, in 5 different basses, and thinking that active is the way to go, I'm never looking back, I am experiencing a bit of a back lash. First, I kept the Kent Armstrong in Cherry Peanut #88, and have been happy with that decision. Then, for the Hyper, I replaced the Select with a passive, split coil Bartolini Jazz, 9J-S1. It is very cool/weird. It sounds unmistakably like a classic Jazz pup, (no hum though! which is important cause there is only one) yet, somehow different, can't quite articulate it yet. The result on the Hyper is something extraordinarily percussive when slapped. I'm not really a slap player and use the technique in a limited fashion, but this is the only Wishbass that actually sounds "proper" when being slapped. It sounds like a wood block and a conga are overdubbed on the bass note, very cool. Yet when plucked, very round and Jazz-like. (I've got some Dean Markley rounds on it.)

Lastly, I scored the perfect piece of purpleheart scrap and used some of it to make a control cover. Moving the input jack to the side of the bass really cleans up the look of the top.

Pictures......

The mahogany back, mahogany, purpleheart and maple laminates in the neck.
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make room for strings

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I have, in no uncertain terms, run out of room to store instruments.


I suppose I could find some space at work!................

Peace, JBY
 
jbybj, that turned out beautifully! I'm getting antsy to start on mine.

Which kind of tung oil? Straight tung oil or self polymerizing? Did you use any grain filler? I don't know if you read the link I posted earlier in the thread; are you concerned with the purpleheart browning with UV exposure over time?

Thanks for that detail shot of the string relief on the throat of the neck; I've thought about doing the same thing and it is good to see how little material needs to be removed.

What size radius block did you use, both length of block and radius? I'm hopeful to do the same with mine.

I'm all stoked now, your work is very inspiring. Going to be tough getting any more (paying) work done tonight...

=wr=
 
James:

Wow, fantastic Hyper! Love the pictures - they tell a story for sure. Can you describe for us more in detail about the side jack set up? That really cleans up the cover plate and shows it off nicely. The purpleheart CP is awesome, by the way. Thanks too, for the description of the tone and playability of your bass - very informative and not many of us go into much about that aspect of these guitars.

What was so bad about the neck on this one?

You've got me itching to get back on my Stude! I hope to put TruOil on it next week when I have more time.

Later on ...
 
James;

I forgot to ask - did you use a 12 degree sanding block on your neck? I finally bought one bought one (12 degree), but have not used it yet due to fret markers being so close to the top of my some of my FBs. Any thoughts on that issue?
 
Anybody replace the original bridge with a Shcaller roller bridge?
Also, is it hard to set the intonation with the original bridge. My E string wore a groove into the bridge and it bottoms out on the pickup.
 
jbybj, that turned out beautifully! I'm getting antsy to start on mine.

Which kind of tung oil? Straight tung oil or self polymerizing? Did you use any grain filler? I don't know if you read the link I posted earlier in the thread; are you concerned with the purpleheart browning with UV exposure over time?

Thanks for that detail shot of the string relief on the throat of the neck; I've thought about doing the same thing and it is good to see how little material needs to be removed.

What size radius block did you use, both length of block and radius? I'm hopeful to do the same with mine.

I'm all stoked now, your work is very inspiring. Going to be tough getting any more (paying) work done tonight...

=wr=
The first tung oil I bought at my local hardware store was a tung oil/polyeurethane blend. It got kind of goopy and thick, and I couldn't find that blend again, so I have been using straight tung oil. The last coat though I was able to salvage a little of the poly blend and it seemed to darken it up a bit. Grain filler?, I'm not that patient, I just want to play them.............

I don't think the bass will be spending much time in the sun, but it is not in my nature to spend much time or effort to keep the wood from doing what comes naturally. :-)

The radius block is the longer one that stewmac sells, 8" long I think, and I choose the 12" radius, just because. My luthier told me to only use the radius block after the fretboard had been properly leveled, with a big long heavy steel rod, (stewmac sells those too) but common sense told me, that if I was careful, and lucky, and the neck wasn't too f'd up, that I should be successful with just a radius block. Apparently all those conditions were met.

Hello 49sfine,

The sidejack is pretty straightforward. Switchcraft, allparts, and proline all make one. It's a threaded cylinder with a lip at one end and the leads on the other. Drill a hole, (one bit down from 1/2"), slide it in, tighten the nut from inside the control cavity and solder away.

The neck was the worst I've ever seen from Wish. There was a strip along the mahogany, from about the third to the 12th fret, 1/2" wide, that had the texture of 60 grit sandpaper, very odd, and painful. The other big issue was the ledge, an almost 90 degree shelf, about 2-3 inches long, on the bottom of the neck near the join to the body, also very uncomfortable, even though I rarely play up there. Oh yeah, I also had to cut the A and D slots on the nut, as Wish had forgotten to.

I wouldn't worry about the fret markers, having a nicely shaped fretboard is most important. I had the exact fear with my Scarab that I took to the luthier for leveling. Somehow they didn't poke through, and he took off a fair amount of wood. I would assume that if one did poke through, there is no reason why it couldn't be filed and sanded to be flush, and feel comfortable to the finger. It would be on the edge anyway so string contact is unlikely. But I've never had to find out, let me know how it goes.
 
Anybody replace the original bridge with a Shcaller roller bridge?
Also, is it hard to set the intonation with the original bridge. My E string wore a groove into the bridge and it bottoms out on the pickup.

I've had very good luck with intonation on all my WB floating bridges. They all look like the photo above, angled closer on the G.

As far as the wear goes, can you move the bridge to the side a little? Wish has sent me additional bridges as well. Others here have fashioned their own with hardwoods like ebony. I have some purpleheart that I'm going to try making bridges from. You could also lower the pup a little, though you might have to route down a bit. Good luck.

I put a Badass on a WB once, but the string spacing was all wrong, had to take it off.
 
Given the floating nature of the bridge, how do folks place it back in the same place after refinishing? Eyeball it? Measure from pickup cavity? Pencil marks?

I'm learning lots from everyone's experiences so far, thanks to all!
=wr=
 
Given the floating nature of the bridge, how do folks place it back in the same place after refinishing? Eyeball it? Measure from pickup cavity? Pencil marks?
=wr=

With a bass tuner. Just like setting the intonation on a 'normal' bass: harmonic at the 12th fret measured against the same note on the fingerboard. Slide the corian around to get the intonation as close as possible on all strings. you don't want to mark the spot and trust that mark as it'll move around on you when you change strings, even if you're changing with the same brand and gauge it can.
 
I've found to intonate my Wishbass I start with no strings. Then put on the G string and intonate that. Then put on the E string and intonate that one making sure that the bridge 'pivots' on the G string. True that with the standard Wishbass bridge, you can't control the A and D string, but they will be very, very close.

This works for both my fretted and fretless. Of course with fretless, you have the ability to make adjustments... with fretted (no matter who the maker is) your at the mercy of the fret placement. I can't speak for all Wishbasses, but on my fretted Wish, the intonation is extremely close up to about the 14th fret... and 99% of my playing is below that.
 
Given the floating nature of the bridge, how do folks place it back in the same place after refinishing? Eyeball it? Measure from pickup cavity? Pencil marks?

I'm learning lots from everyone's experiences so far, thanks to all!
=wr=
WR: What I have done so far, is carefully measure the distance between the bottom end of the EMG pup (or other) down to the center points of the bridge (or peak of the bridge), on both ends. Since I usually change strings anyway to a flat wound, this is subject to adjustment after the fact, but this has gotten me close enough to at least be in the ballpark for closer tweaking as per the other suggestions. By doing it this way, the bass is at least somewhat playable so you have a reference point. I am working on getting more skilled at doing this though, but this is doing it for me so far. I did like the one string at a time approach! I will try that next when the Stude is up and running ...
 
What a beautiful Purpleheart Hyper! Great Job! Have you ever considered making a Purpleheart bridge?
Yes, the same piece of wood that made the control cavity cover I hope to make some bridges with. I just have to figure out if I can do it with the tools I already own or whether I need to go shopping.

You can be sure if I make one, I'll post pix.

Peace, James
 
Gentlemen;

I just got an email from Wish today with the pix of my completed bass - all I can say is; Fantastic! If I could figure out how to upload his pictures into this thread, I would ...

Anyway, it is a short scale Fantasy in zebrawood (both sides) with twin purpleheart stringers and the control panel on the back. No side dots (yay!) and as of right now, I do not know what wood the FB is. (I should know by tonight.) It is unfinished and I asked for a narrower neck, which it appears to have. I also asked for a slant cut on the headstock, but with the peak on the left side, not the right. He seemed to remember everything I asked of him, which proves the old adage that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. - Way to go. Steve! It is ready to ship ... I'm pumped.
 
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