I just get sick of people who grew up in an era that should know better than to turn into grumpy old farts whining about today's music turning into a bunch of grumpy old farts whining about today's music.
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Woodstock 50 Lineup
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No, I really don't think it carries any more expectations than Kleenex does. And you can read some of the posts in this thread that demonstrate why it was nothing more than a name that sells product.
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Except that's not really the case. I made mention to the violence that has broken out at these events, where I live to someone talking about Woodstock being about peace and love. I don't really care what's going on that incites violence. I ain't attending. My dislike for hip hop has nothing to do with it.
People come from all over the world to visit the town of Woodstock, NY...which is only about 70 miles from Bethel
In her book "Buried Alive" covering the years she worked as publicist for Janis Joplin, Myra Friedman writes some droll stuff about how the New Yorkers she knew who had attended the OG Woodstock all deemed the event crowded, dirty, a drag; however, Friedman said that within two weeks, once Life Magazine et al had mythologized the event, all her friends had totally changed their stories are were talking of the festival in rapturous tones.
So it didn't take long!
I think the point is that we don’t like “today’s music” BECAUSE we know better.
[thats a joke]
This lineup has me falling asleep
And she's calling a cab
While he's having a smoke
And she's taking a drag
Now they're going to bed
And my stomach is sick
And it's all in my head
But she's touching his chest now
He takes off her dress now
Let me go
And I just can't look, it's killing me
And taking control
And she's calling a cab
While he's having a smoke
And she's taking a drag
Now they're going to bed
And my stomach is sick
And it's all in my head
But she's touching his chest now
He takes off her dress now
Let me go
And I just can't look, it's killing me
And taking control
They're calling it Woodstock 50 because SnoozaPalooza was already taken.
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I actually like a lot of today's music. Most of what I've been listening to is being made by people who are half my age. Do I have to like all of it?
"1989 the number"
Can't believe I was spinning this THIRTY years ago. 30!! Even harder to believe that three decades later,
there are those who (still) refuse to recognize not only the genre, but its ultimate triumph in the marketplace.
Day 1
Iron Maiden
Volbeat
Metallica
Judas Priest
Muse
Queensryche
Rush
Hammerfall
Sabaton
Saxon
AC/DC
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What does that mean? Recognize the genera? Triumph in the market place? I'd say most people who don't care for hip hop recognize it as a genera and also understand that it's tremendously popular (successful). It almost sounds like you're saying that because of it's success and becoming mainstream, it's hard for you to believe that some people (still) don't embrace/like it. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, just seems like an odd thing to say.
And look how much better this country and the world is for it not having a chance in hell of happening.
But since it has become a hell of sorts in some respects I guess you can say that (via a little circular logic) it didn't have a chance for precisely that reason.
But I'm not that cynical I guess. I think we only get the world we choose to make. When a dream dies it doesn't mean it died natural death. People had to make a concerted effort to kill it.
And it looks like they did a pretty good job of at least wounding it pretty badly.
What does that mean? Recognize the genera? Triumph in the market place? I'd say most people who don't care for hip hop recognize it as a genera and also understand that it's tremendously popular (successful). It almost sounds like you're saying that because of it's success and becoming mainstream, it's hard for you to believe that some people (still) don't embrace/like it. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, just seems like an odd thing to say.
I didn't say ALL who dislike rap discount its very validity, or ignore the fact that it went on not only outstrip rock music in sales, but to effectively bury it. But many who post on TB do hold this bigoted view, as you well know. Inexplicably, it is usually a rocker about 45, who would have been 15 when I was listening to rap at age 26. Always that dude with his "rap isn't music" rant. I always wonder how that kid so missed a cultural wave that was evident event to a relative fogy like myself back in the day. But no matter.
In any case, my phrase "there are those" excuses me from your specious charge of over-generalization. My phrase suggests a subset.
Who's being grumpy Jim? I'm basically saying the same thing you're saying aren't I? That it's all just entertainment - and don't kid yourself otherwise.
I know it's not "kewl" to say something you think is junk is junk. I know we're all supposed to "play nice" and not have any opinion other than the PC groupthink opinion that says it's all good. I don't hear anybody "whining" (btw when did you start using that newgenspeak term?) about anything.
I guess we're just on two different pages as far as what the context of story was back in the day. That's fine. what would historians write about if it was the same experience for everybody, right?
I think the reasons why are a little more nuanced and complicated than just the artistic caliber of the music itself.
So many today feel so good about taking that cynical attitude.
Those of us (the "THEY" you put down) who LIVED it, KNEW that it WAS ALIVE! It was REAL! We (not everybody) who BELIEVED in the IDEALS that defined that era worked hard to change our families. our friends, our communities, our country and THE WORLD! To many of us, it was MORE than sex, drugs and R'n'R, though that was certainly a big part of it. We were idealistic, and yes, more than a bit naive. The culture we endeavored to build was not perfect. It was, in fact, seriously flawed, and was easily crushed by commercialism and a liberal dose of "carrot and stick". They didn't NEED to beat, shoot and arrest us. But it sure helped decide a lot of folks for who sex, drugs and R'n'R were all that really mattered. In a way, "Woodstock I" was the beginning of the end for that movement.
Yes, we were naive, but we had HOPE! And I'll take HOPE over CYNICISM every day.
