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Woodstock 50 Lineup
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Miley Cyrus and Jay-Z??... I think the brand is being milked a bit. Even more than in 1994.
Honestly, sure. But I think they had NO IDEA that it was going to be nearly as big as it was... both in reality and folklore.
I think the reasons why are a little more nuanced and complicated than just the artistic caliber of the music itself.
Granted, of course. But that is always the case with pop music. Remember, "Judy In Disguise with Glasses" was a chart hit
"I don't like rap" is a statement that needs no defense. But "rap is not music" is simply indefensible.
Interesting clip of Lars Ulrich discussing the potential future of rock music (starting at 31:00
He says he saw a road movie called "American Honey" and realized the music was all rap, soul, hip hop and R&B.
He realized that no longer were such films filled with rock music, "Kiss Rock and Roll all Night" and the like.
In fact the film had ZERO rock, and this struck Ulrich deeply. He goes on to say that as a rock
and roller, he knows he should double down by predicting the return of rock. But then he says he really isn't so very sure.
He says he saw a road movie called "American Honey" and realized the music was all rap, soul, hip hop and R&B.
He realized that no longer were such films filled with rock music, "Kiss Rock and Roll all Night" and the like.
In fact the film had ZERO rock, and this struck Ulrich deeply. He goes on to say that as a rock
and roller, he knows he should double down by predicting the return of rock. But then he says he really isn't so very sure.
I think people forget....the acts at Woodstock were all pros doing a gig. It was , without the "legend" that surrounded it, wet, muddy and logisticly flawed. That it was able to pull itself off is proof that things can and do turn out ok, against all odds. I would have loved attending but was in the Army at the time. Many friends that did go were very aware of attending what would be an historical event and awed they could say they were there. They also had some not so peace, love, dove moments sleeping in mud , overflowing porta potties and lots of really waisted humans surrounding them. Could that event ever be duplicated? I would have to say no way. Is it ok to use the brand "Woodstock" to get a music event attended by some who want to feel part of the continuium? Sure, why not....it's still about music.
Be specific please.
Equal? The disrespect of women and glorification of gang lifestyle is something I've not seen. I'm the youngest of seven. I've heard music of all styles in my house from a young age and I'm in my fifties. The violence has been seen in a number of gang affiliated artists getting shot. We've gone from Miles and Motown to anti-music, from beautiful and brilliant to ugly and stupid.
I don't have an opinion about who plays with who or where, but I kind of wish they would retire the Woodstock name. I don't think it really means anything today.
Woodstock will always mean the original concert to me, and to my generation there is a bit of reverence towards it.
Just my feelings of course.
Woodstock will always mean the original concert to me, and to my generation there is a bit of reverence towards it.
Just my feelings of course.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
I just find it silly all the talk about how transcendental the first one was. Everyone had their rose colored glasses.
Granted, of course. But that is always the case with pop music. Remember, "Judy In Disguise with Glasses" was a chart hit
"I don't like rap" is a statement that needs no defense. But "rap is not music" is simply indefensible.
Depends on how you define music I guess. I’ve got a friend who is heavily into Balinese gamelan music and maintains Western Music isn’t real music.
But to your point I don’t see why anyone who is of the opinion a certain record industry shelving category (i.e, genre) isn’t music should be cause for great offense. Or even need to defend itself. It’s just someone’s opinion. I’ve heard the same said by various people, news articles, lecturers, and bloggers about: DooWop, Blues, Roots, Rock & Roll, Modern Jazz, Fusion Jazz, Skiffke, Dub, ProgRock, JazzRock, and FolkRock to name but a few.
If somebody doesn’t consider something music, so what? It just their opinion. It’s not like every Rap or HipHop song is going to be pulled out of circulation and the term removed from our language just because somebody dismissed it as “not being music.” Roll with it and go enjoy whatever you like. I like listening to stuff (e.g. Harry Partch, Moondog, Morton Subotnick, Meredith Monk, et al.) that nine out of ten people probably wouldn’t listen to for more than 10 minutes unless you held a gun to their heads.
What do I care if somebody else looks at me funny and gives me a pitying smile? I like it. And I consider it music.
And that’s all that really matters.
“We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel.”
― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
By saying that I have no desire to attend this.......I feel like I am opening myself up for ridicule.
Flashback to 1987, when Dee Dee Ramone, convinced hip hop was the future, bailed on da bruddahs to start
this solo career as Dee Dee King
Again, this is thirty-two years ago
this solo career as Dee Dee King
Again, this is thirty-two years ago
Not liking the music or not wanting to go is one thing. Attacking the music for existing is another.
I spent the afternoon immediately doubting what I'd written, thinking this very thing, thinking that it ought to be true and asking myself why it isn't.
If I crossed paths with someone/someplace who could do a meatloaf or potato salad like my yiayia's, I would be so nice to them and be eating there at least once a week, even if the lack of cigarette smell made it all taste a bit off.
I like Uncle Acid and Elder a lot, and while they sound very Sabbath-ey, they do two things GVF don't: 1) write music that would work well done in any other set of instrumentation and/or wildly different genre 2) more importantly- add other flavors.
If someone got Yia's tater salad 99% right but put sauteéd yellow onions and bits of jalápino in there instead of the fresh red onion and ground black pepper, I probably would hate it. Difference being that Yia's food was perfect, and nearly no band has a perfect sound, especially Zep.
