Woodstock 50 Lineup

[JimmyM]

Back then there was more musical variety - but also a lot more unity of culture and purpose with the original Woodstock Festival.

This new one is just another mega concert. Entertainment plain and simple.

They can't recreate the vibe of that era or the meaning music held for the attendees at the first one. The world has changed and the magic of that time has long departed from this world. "The child is grown the dream is gone. <we> I have become comfortably numb."

Yeah, we do love to romanticize things that happened in our younger days and do our best to present them to the current crop of younger folks in a way to "prove" that "we were better than you." But the truth is that the "sense of community" that we romanticize about was overshadowed by a lot of people peeing and pooping in the open, leaving tons of garbage that took a very long time to clean up, and a tremendous amount of gate crashers who forced the promoters to start letting people in for free out of safety concerns despite having the absolute right to charge people. Only years and years of hindsight conjures up these images of "community." Back then, it was, as you said, "just another mega concert."

 

[5StringBlues]

Oooof! Right up there with Lil Wayne.

 

[GregC]

I count 26 bands total on the top two lines of the poster for each day. Of those 26, THREE are hip hop acts. And yet 90% of this thread is a debate about hip hop. LOL.

 

[JimmyM]

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LOL...yeah, no other music besides rap/hip hop ever glorified drinking or violence. Spare me.

 

[5StringBlues]

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[Sixgunn]

LOL...yeah, no other music besides rap/hip hop ever glorified drinking or violence. Spare me.

I never said that. If you're interested, look into it.

 

[tr4252]

As has been said, Woodstock '69 was more than a big concert. Personally, I was inclined to go to hear the bands, but also wanted to immerse myself in the counter culture jumble that I was anticipating. I wasn't disappointed. It was more of a cultural upheaval to me, with the coolest sound track of all time. I was in a band then, and walked away from the festival with a lot of new (to me) musical ideas.

But about the diverse types of entertainment, and if they can be considered woodstocky enough. I'm convinced that if Walter Carlos had played a tape of Switched On Bach on that gigantic sound system (I think it was released by then), the crowd would have loved it as much as they did Baez, Hendrix, Joplin, Sly, getting stoned, playing in the mud, etc. In my opinion it was a party, in and of its own time, and so will any future Woodstocks be.

By all means, go. Just don't burn down the toilets.

Tom

 

[rd2rk]

"Woodstock I" was aimed directly at a particular culture - the "Age of Aquarius -Psychedelic/acid/pot - Love and Peace Hippie culture, in which I was an active participant (my avatar is a photoshop of what I'd look like if I still had hair). The "non-rock" acts were nevertheless an important part of that (long deceased) culture.

I drove there (I was 17) with two girls I picked up at a bar (we all had fake ID) the night before. We spent most of the 3 days hiding in my car because the girls couldn't handle getting wet. I had all the bands on 8-track, and lots of acid and weed, so it was kinda like being there.

Here's what I remember of my experience:
Rain
Mud
Garbage
Cow poop
People defecating wherever because the restroom lines were impossible
Being so far from the stage I didn't hear the band's first song until the set was over
Naked people most of whom shouldn't have been (hard to un-see some of that!), frolicking in cow poop smelling ponds/swamps
Walking three miles from the show to the car in the rain, then back in time to see two acts, then back....
Being stuck in traffic for hours trying to get there and back home

I've been to lots of outdoor concerts since then, but I'll never go to a multi-day event again.
Needless to say, I won't be going to this one.
This Woodstock is not aimed at a specific culture. In fact it could be said that the only major definable culture happening right now is the Rap/HipHop culture. (I can't stand Rap/HipHop - SURPRISE!).
As to the makeup of the acts, it reflects much of what's happening today in POPULAR music.
I'd Love to see GVF. And Hot Tuna. And Pussy Riot (there's some rockers with GUTS!) Some others too.

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I'm kinda with you on "Meh".

But it would be cool to see Jack Cassady and Jorma K in Hot Tuna!
Dave Crosby, John Sebastian, Country Joe, Zombies would be good too.

Courtney Barnett would be my pick of the "modern" list.

Thanks for posting this! I'd never heard of her, there's a live video on YT that I'll be watching later. I especially liked the Velvet Underground style guitar lead.

For those of you who choose to go, HAVE FUN! Drive safely, and try not to hurt anyone!

 

[pellomoco14]

Skeptics: Behold Kanye covering Queen ]

Oh yeah. That really holds its own against the original doesn't it?

Yep! Held it's own **** karaoke style over the original, in place of a backing track. With a crowd like that I'd expect at least a real karaoke machine.

 

[707GK]

Sampling might take skill, but in an objective measurement, that skill doesn't require as much time and commitment to develop as actually learning to play an actually instrument. I think to suggest that the are "different but equal" (not quoting you here, quotes just for emphasis) is nonsense. To suggest otherwise is relativism that just tries to obscure any objective measure of talent. It's almost like saying the person who takes a photograph of a painting is similarly skilled as the painter.

Agree to disagree. They are different but equal. Your analogy of the photograph/painting is very far off base.

Again, try to do it well enough to get a gig somewhere. Bet you can't.

 

[fhm555]

Was there jazz, barbershop or classical at the original? Did they have any pre-recorded music where the DJ just pushed a button?

Lighten up man, avoid the brown acid.
If you think about it, Woodstock was the ultimare expression of how the youth of that time felt about the status quo, which weren't much so they put together this gigantic middle finger and told “the man” where to stick it for three glorious days of peace love and music. About the music part, every act on that stage was a sure bet to hack off the ‘rents, so fifty years on, featuring music that is a sure bet to hack off the ‘rents seems so appropriate and in keeping with the real spirit of what the original was all about.
If you think it was just about the music, maybe you should try the brown acid.

 

[tr4252]

"Woodstock I" was aimed directly at a particular culture - the "Age of Aquarius -Psychedelic/acid/pot - Love and Peace Hippie culture, in which I was an active participant (my avatar is a photoshop of what I'd look like if I still had hair). The "non-rock" acts were nevertheless an important part of that (long deceased) culture.

I drove there (I was 17) with two girls I picked up at a bar (we all had fake ID) the night before. We spent most of the 3 days hiding in my car because the girls couldn't handle getting wet. I had all the bands on 8-track, and lots of acid and weed, so it was kinda like being there.

Here's what I remember of my experience:
Rain
Mud
Garbage
Cow poop
People defecating wherever because the restroom lines were impossible
Being so far from the stage I didn't hear the band's first song until the set was over
Naked people most of whom shouldn't have been (hard to un-see some of that!), frolicking in cow poop smelling ponds/swamps
Walking three miles from the show to the car in the rain, then back in time to see two acts, then back....
Being stuck in traffic for hours trying to get there and back home

I've been to lots of outdoor concerts since then, but I'll never go to a multi-day event again.
Needless to say, I won't be going to this one.
This Woodstock is not aimed at a specific culture. In fact it could be said that the only major definable culture happening right now is the Rap/HipHop culture. (I can't stand Rap/HipHop - SURPRISE!).
As to the makeup of the acts, it reflects much of what's happening today in POPULAR music.
I'd Love to see GVF. And Hot Tuna. And Pussy Riot (there's some rockers with GUTS!) Some others too.



Thanks for posting this! I'd never heard of her, there's a live video on YT that I'll be watching later. I especially liked the Velvet Underground style guitar lead.

For those of you who choose to go, HAVE FUN! Drive safely, and try not to hurt anyone!

Hey rd2rk, I was 17 also.

Tom

 

[JimmyM]

I never said that. If you're interested, look into it.

Well that is the recurring theme in your posts. You don't like hip hop and you're using these alleged "studies" to justify how horrible it is...just like people did all throughout history when confronted by youth culture that didn't go along with their beliefs. This is nothing new whatsoever.

 

[bdplaid]

Anyway, who cares what they did in 69? This is 50 years later. Times change and so does music.

You have to admit that the name "Woodstock" carries with it connotations, and with that, expectations. I agree that it ought to mirror, at least in most ways, what the original did.

However, I also agree that the original was an aligning of the stars, and that they should just let it go, rather than tarnish what that was.

 

[bombpop14]

Well, the lineup looks a little less rapey then the nineties one....so there's that.

 

[rd2rk]

Hey rd2rk, I was 17 also.

Tom

Do you still have hair? I miss my hair.....

 

[40Hz]

Yeah, we do love to romanticize things that happened in our younger days and do our best to present them to the current crop of younger folks in a way to "prove" that "we were better than you." But the truth is that the "sense of community" that we romanticize about was overshadowed by a lot of people peeing and pooping in the open, leaving tons of garbage that took a very long time to clean up, and a tremendous amount of gate crashers who forced the promoters to start letting people in for free out of safety concerns despite having the absolute right to charge people. Only years and years of hindsight conjures up these images of "community." Back then, it was, as you said, "just another mega concert."

You're reading way too much into what I said. Nobody is out to "prove" anything or show somebody is better that somebody else. My point was that the dream of that era died.

If you don't remember the feeling that permeated that era, so be it. It wasn't the cheap cynicism, snotty quick comebacks, and sense of powerless rage you get today.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[40Hz]

LOL...yeah, no other music besides rap/hip hop ever glorified drinking or violence. Spare me.

Jeez. You having a bad day Jim? What gives?

 

[JimmyM]

You're reading way too much into what I said. Nobody is out to "prove" anything or show somebody is better that somebody else. My point was that the dream of that era died.

If you don't remember the feeling that permeated that era, so be it. It wasn't the cheap cynicism, snotty quick comebacks, and sense of powerless rage you get today.

That's all I'm saying.

If it never was alive, then it can't die. The big mistake they made was thinking that that dream ever had a chance in hell of happening.

 

[5StringBlues]

powerless rage

And it's off to the overheard band names thread we go.