Woodstock 50 Lineup

[Michedelic]

Because Woodstock was a rock and folk festival with live musicians. They should stay true to their roots. There are plenty of other festivals where people can see hip-hop if they want.

If you wanted a frozen in time, museum exhibit experience, you missed out on this....
Desert Trip - Wikipedia
The telling thing about that was, they didn't bother with it the following year. Not enough portable wheelchair ramps available, I suppose. The line ups for the 25 and 30 year anniversaries were grounded in the here and now(here and then?)as much as this upcoming event; actually more diverse in some respects...
Woodstock '94 - Wikipedia
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You can still go to a "Happy Together" tour or one of Ringo's shows.

Man, the original was just a lining up of the planets that produced a historical event.
It's a shame people have been trying to recapture that day and/or cash in on it ever since.

It should be a clue that in '99, it turned into a Lord Of The Flies scenario. The original festival was a fluke, driven by the sheer numbers of the baby boom demographic. It was a big end of summer camp out, with an extremely young crowd experienced with, and physically used to, 'roughing it'. If anything, Altamont was a more realistic example of human behavior. Monterey, even though it gets overlooked, was a far more sociomusical important event, as it was a cultural breakthrough, plus in the long run had a much more varied roster of talent.

nostalgia seems to be the enemy of joy

Even at Woodstock you had the embryo of the reactionary 50's nostalgia wave of the 70's in the appearance of Sha Na Na. If anything, Woodstock killed/was the end of the great unfettered creative boom in popular music from about '63 up to that time(especially since '66), as 'the biz' smelled not big money(that happened in Monterey), but huge money. Within two years both Fillmores were closed, and the era of stadium shows and large band salaries had begun. Add to that the slow death of free-form underground FM radio which then calcified into restricted playlist 'album rock', further mummified into 'classic rock'.

As far as the inclusion of Hip Hop and all that, yeah, it's not my idea of a good time, but last time I looked it was 2019. How the audio on stage gets generated aside, Hendrix's version of "Star Spangled Banner", to the young audience of 1969, was an abstract interpretation of the then current existential crisis of that generation; to someone who was as old then as you are now, it was a bunch of shameful gawdawful noise that should have been banned.

 

[Sixgunn]

And you’ve never heard or read about any violence at events that aren’t featuring hip-hop?

Hip-hop events are no more prone to erupt into violence than any other type of event.

You are more apt to get killed in a house of worship than at a hip-hop event.

First, I never said hip hop events are the only events where violence occurs. Second, please site your source for your last statement.

Oh geez, that paper sounds like it was written by those Congressional wives in the 80's all upset that Twisted Sister had a video with Neidermeyer from Animal House getting beaten up by over-the-top cartoony violence.

Gimme a break.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

If you wanted a frozen in time, museum exhibit experience, you missed out on this....
Desert Trip - Wikipedia
The telling thing about that was, they didn't bother with it the following year. Not enough portable wheelchair ramps available, I suppose. The line ups for the 25 and 30 year anniversaries were grounded in the here and now(here and then?)as much as this upcoming event; actually more diverse in some respects...
Woodstock '94 - Wikipedia
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You can still go to a "Happy Together" tour or one of Ringo's shows.

Hehe! Yeah, Oldchella isn't my bag either.

 

[Michedelic]

Hehe! Yeah, Oldchella isn't my bag either.

What, then, is your bag?

 

[48thStreetCustom]

I just cited three music fests where deaths occurred and none were hip-hop.

I found this online: https://madison365.com/new-study-shoots-narrative-madison-thinks-hip-hop-violence/

“The study shows that Hip-Hop is not different from other genres. The data supports that. To me, that’s exciting … but also very interesting,” Reece tells Madison365. “This just points out how unfounded bias has such a profound effect on different groups and gets at why Madison has such extreme racial disparities … because we’re willing to accept stereotypes without having the facts to back it up.”​

 

[thetragichero]

A lot of the hip hop events around here, erupt into violence.

man you don't even want to KNOW what goes on at a black Friday sale

 

[48thStreetCustom]

What, then, is your bag?

Live musicians making exciting contemporary/relevant music. I get that "relevant" is subjective.

 

[Sixgunn]

man you don't even want to KNOW what goes on at a black Friday sale

Hahahaha!!!

 

[Coolhandjjl]

please site your source for your last statement...

Rather than research the number of people killed in houses of worship (because that’s just too huge of a task with too many incidents) I’ll let you research how many people have lost their lives at hip-hop events.

 

[Sixgunn]

Oh geez, that paper sounds like it was written by those Congressional wives in the 80's all upset that Twisted Sister had a video with Neidermeyer from Animal House getting beaten up by over-the-top cartoony violence.

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[bgartist]

Because Woodstock was a rock and folk festival with live musicians. They should stay true to their roots. There are plenty of other festivals where people can see hip-hop if they want.

The hip hop artists I recognize on the list do use live bands.

 

[Sixgunn]

Rather than research the number of people killed in houses of worship (because that’s just too huge of a task with too many incidents) I’ll let you research how many people have lost their lives at hip-hop events.

Ya know, I was just gonna say rather than research the number of people killed killed at hip hop events (because that’s just too huge of a task with too many incidents) I’ll let you research how many people have lost their lives at houses of worship.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

The hip hop artists I recognize on the list do use alive bands.

Does Chance the Rapper use a live band? I don't know the answer to that. Seems like Jay-Z sometimes uses one. So that would change my stance on him if he used one at the festival.

 

[thetragichero]

didn't two just happen this weekend?

 

[bgartist]

Does Chance the Rapper use a live band? I don't know the answer to that. Seems like Jay-Z sometimes uses one. So that would change my stance on him if he used one at the festival.

Yes, I've seen him with a live band.

 

[BadSanta1281]

I don't go to big concerts or Black Friday sales anymore.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Ya know, I was just gonna say rather than research the number of people killed killed at hip hop events (because that’s just too huge of a task with too many incidents) I’ll let you research how many people have lost their lives at houses of worship.

Ok. It’s up to 52 in just the US since 2012:
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If you add in the recent New Zealand massacres, the total goes up to 101.

How many people have been killed at hip-hop concerts over the same period?

 

[Michedelic]

Live musicians making exciting contemporary/relevant music. I get that "relevant" is subjective.

So, aside from Jay Z, Common, Chance, Earl, etc, and then the 'legacy' acts, who on that roster is not making exciting contemporary relevant music(and let's just not go there with GVF)? I don't see much in the way of 25 year old Grunge or Emo dinosaurs.

 

[klejst]

There is some great acts and talents there (it's cool to me to see Canned Heat on the bill again)...but I'm just going to say that with all the top 40'esq "rap" and pop "artists" on the bill...that makes me not want to go.

 

[THUNDERGODX]

Was Richie Havens rock and roll? Arlo Guthrie? Ravi Shankar? Joan Baez?

I DONT WATCH THE MOVIE BECAUSE OF THEM.