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Woodstock 50 Lineup

#105
BadSanta1281 said:
Altamont 1969... no hip-hop

The event is best known for considerable violence, including the stabbing death of Meredith Hunter and three accidental deaths: two caused by a Invalid Link Removed car accident, and one by LSD-induced drowning in an irrigation canal. Scores were injured, numerous cars were stolen and then abandoned, and there was extensive property damage.
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I know--
Its Only Rock And Roll-
But I Like IT!
 
#106
Michedelic said:
If you wanted a frozen in time, museum exhibit experience, you missed out on this....
Desert Trip - Wikipedia
The telling thing about that was, they didn't bother with it the following year. Not enough portable wheelchair ramps available, I suppose. The line ups for the 25 and 30 year anniversaries were grounded in the here and now(here and then?)as much as this upcoming event; actually more diverse in some respects...
Woodstock '94 - Wikipedia
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You can still go to a "Happy Together" tour or one of Ringo's shows.


It should be a clue that in '99, it turned into a Lord Of The Flies scenario. The original festival was a fluke, driven by the sheer numbers of the baby boom demographic. It was a big end of summer camp out, with an extremely young crowd experienced with, and physically used to, 'roughing it'. If anything, Altamont was a more realistic example of human behavior. Monterey, even though it gets overlooked, was a far more sociomusical important event, as it was a cultural breakthrough, plus in the long run had a much more varied roster of talent.


Even at Woodstock you had the embryo of the reactionary 50's nostalgia wave of the 70's in the appearance of Sha Na Na. If anything, Woodstock killed/was the end of the great unfettered creative boom in popular music from about '63 up to that time(especially since '66), as 'the biz' smelled not big money(that happened in Monterey), but huge money. Within two years both Fillmores were closed, and the era of stadium shows and large band salaries had begun. Add to that the slow death of free-form underground FM radio which then calcified into restricted playlist 'album rock', further mummified into 'classic rock'.

As far as the inclusion of Hip Hop and all that, yeah, it's not my idea of a good time, but last time I looked it was 2019. How the audio on stage gets generated aside, Hendrix's version of "Star Spangled Banner", to the young audience of 1969, was an abstract interpretation of the then current existential crisis of that generation; to someone who was as old then as you are now, it was a bunch of shameful gawdawful noise that should have been banned.
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You got me there.
 
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#108
MattZilla said:
Heh, Plant on Friday and Greta Vaneppelin on Saturday. If I were Plant, there's no way that I could:
- sit in with them without being at least a little bit of a dick
- say no to an invite without being at least a little bit of a dick
- not get invited to sit in without being a little bit of a dick.
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Hard not to like GVF on a sonic level if you've spent a lifetime steeped in Zep.

Hard not to like the color of this chap's bass. It's a Precision, I understand...

Hard not to find the neo-hippy garb a little corny.

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#111
Michedelic said:
So, aside from Jay Z, Common, Chance, Earl, etc, and then the 'legacy' acts, who on that roster is not making exciting contemporary relevant music(and let's just not go there with GVF)? I don't see much in the way of 25 year old Grunge or Emo dinosaurs.
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That's true. There isn't anyone like Pearl Jam or Weezer on the bill. I think I might like some of the lesser known bands on the bill. I don't know much by Courtney Barnett but I like what I've heard. My beef is more with the headliners. IMO they're pretty Meh. How about Tame Impala and Noel Gallagher? Both of their last records were top 10 and both have new albums coming out in 2019. I guess Ryan Adams would be crossed off any list.
 
#113
48thStreetCustom said:
So music is only relevant if it's made for 20 somethings?
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In the context of music festivals almost impericly yes. Relevance to 20 somethings is mandatory for ticket sales security. > With limited responsibilitys and extra cash they will go just to go! Making up half the crowd at a recent Styx/george lynch mob concert.
Having said that every live hip hop performance I've gone to wasn't worth my money. Including, to my surprise Run the Jewels.
My generation's Woodstock 94' included Apex Twin!, salt n peppa and a hand full of flavor of the day Disk Jockeys and punk bands. I understand I'm a narrow minority on this but> As much as i like listening aphex twin. I never wanted to watch the dude trigger and manipulate samples dude at a desk, not being able to see or what he's doing (if I'm pretending to understand). I enjoy watching string, brass, woodwind and percussion because I understand the relationship between what I hear and see.
 
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#115
pellomoco14 said:
In the context of music festivals almost impericly yes. Relevance to 20 somethings is mandatory for ticket sales security. > With limited responsibilitys and extra cash they will go just to go! Making up half the crowd at a recent Styx/george lynch mob concert.
Having said that every live hip hop performance I've gone to wasn't worth my money. Including, to my surprise Run the Jewels.
I realise I'm a narrow minority because generation's Woodstock 94' included Apex Twin!, salt n peppa and a hand full of flavor of the day Disk Jockeys and punk bands. As much as i like listening aphex twin. I never wanted to watch the dude trigger and manipulate samples dude at a desk, not being able to see or what he's doing (if I'm pretending to understand). I enjoy watching string, brass, woodwind and percussion because I understand the relationship between what I hear and see.
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But almost all the highest grossing tours in history are "dinosaur bands."
 
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#116
...and I thought Woodstock 99 was lame when I went through...(didn't stop me from buying a hat that I loved and a few shirts)

Plus, how the mighty have fallen. Miley Cyrus and Akon on day one are enough to ruin it for me. There's a lot of good bands but too much B.S. fluff for way too much money to be a real Woodstock.
 
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#118
48thStreetCustom said:
Meh...

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Okay here is my take. Woodstock was put together for people who loved the groups of their current era and wanted to put them together all in one place on one stage.

This one isn't number one free, so there's the breaking of tradition in that sense, however it is all about putting a show together for people who love groups in the current era and get them together in one place on one stage.

There are a few names I know everyone knows, but there are also ones only certain followers know?

Should they be there? Are they worthy enough in some peoples eyes to play at The Woodstock 50th Anniversary?

Maybe not, time will tell. I'm sure the goal of the promoters was to get the big name acts to ride home on the pile of money, but maybe they were out of their price range or had scheduling conflicts that forced them to settle for the line up that they ended up with. I can think of a ton of bands I would have like to see on that stage myself.
 
#119
Son of Wobble said:
Hard not to like GVF on a sonic level if you've spent a lifetime steeped in Zep.

Hard not to like the color of this chap's bass. It's a Precision, I understand...

Hard not to find the neo hippy garb a little corny.

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I checked them out on SNL a few weeks ago. Their performance was pretty dodgy. A lot of people blasted it online.
 
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#120
MattZilla said:
Heh, Plant on Friday and Greta Vaneppelin on Saturday. If I were Plant, there's no way that I could:
- sit in with them without being at least a little bit of a dick
- say no to an invite without being at least a little bit of a dick
- not get invited to sit in without being a little bit of a dick.
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If there's a Vegas line I'm taking short odds that Plant bows out of an invite to share the stage with GVF,
as it is just too loaded a "pass-the-torch" moment.

Of course, his instead saying "yes" would deeply irk Jimmy Page, which might give Plant incentive enough to sit in.
 
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