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Woodstock 50 Lineup

Equal? The disrespect of women and glorification of gang lifestyle is something I've not seen. I'm the youngest of seven. I've heard music of all styles in my house from a young age and I'm in my fifties. The violence has been seen in a number of gang affiliated artists getting shot. We've gone from Miles and Motown to anti-music, from beautiful and brilliant to ugly and stupid.

The topic that I was debating with another member was the skill required to create the music.
 
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Whenever I’m involved in this debate with someone I ask if they like Bob Dylann. Is it his guitar playing? Or is it the long barely sung rhyming verses about the troubles in his life and the world around him over an often simple and incredibly repetitive musical back drop?

Anyway, looks like best festival line up I’ve seen lately. We’re not talking Migos or 6ix 9ine here... Jay Z and Chance the Rapper are legit! Miley Cyrus is a little questionable though..
 
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Agree to disagree. They are different but equal. Your analogy of the photograph/painting is very far off base.

Again, try to do it well enough to get a gig somewhere. Bet you can't.
Sure agree to disagree.

Bad analogy? Probably. But one is a physical skill and one is not. I would absolutely get further creating electronic music than playing bass with the same amount of time invested.

Are Phd's in Chemical Engineering and English different but equal? Of course not. Saying the two are equal but different is relativist garbage in my opinion.
 
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What you miss entirely is that the real skill is composition, not performance.
One is physical (performance) and one is mental (composition). One is easier to measure/quantify/validate (can you physically play something or not, this is easy to validate)

Quality of composition is harder to objectively judge.

But I would challenge that it is actually really composition if you are sampling vs creating 100% original material.
 
One is physical (performance) and one is mental (composition). One is easier to measure/quantify/validate (can you physically play something or not, this is easy to validate)

Quality of composition is harder to objectively judge.

But I would challenge that it is actually really composition if you are sampling vs creating 100% original material.

Musically, I would say working with samples is arranging not composition.
 
Woodstock. It was a legendary event that can't be duplicated no matter how hard anyone tries and no matter how much money is spent. It was just a time and place when a one-of-a-kind event evolved out of a planned event.

I see some bands on the list I'd like to see, several I don't know, and a few I would pass up, but I'm sure I'd be more excited if I was 18-24 years old.

I'm glad to see someone or some group is trying to keep the memory of Woodstock alive even if the 50th anniversary show misses the mark by a mile. At least it's a shot at keeping live music around. I hope it's more successful than anyone's wiledest dreams.
 
There's some good acts on there, a lot better than some festival lineups I've heard of...but admittedly mostly on day one.

Santana, Robert Plant, Raconteurs, John Fogerty, Nathaniel Rateliff?
All acts I'd like to see.
I don't understand the negativity.
I don’t get the negativity either. Looks pretty strong to me. But I’m an old guy. There are five or more on each day I’d go to see if they played near me.
 
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...the ultimare expression...
Cool, a new word! The contraction of ultimate and nightmare. :D

...Harry Partch...
I have the LP Delusion of the Fury; bought it in the mid '70s. :thumbsup:

Woodstock. It was a legendary event that can't be duplicated no matter how hard anyone tries and no matter how much money is spent. It was just a time and place when a one-of-a-kind event evolved out of a planned event.
This pretty much sums it up, really. :thumbsup:

Drop the name Woodstock and use something else, already.
 
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One is physical (performance) and one is mental (composition). One is easier to measure/quantify/validate (can you physically play something or not, this is easy to validate)

Quality of composition is harder to objectively judge.

But I would challenge that it is actually really composition if you are sampling vs creating 100% original material.
And I would say it is completely composition to take many parts from various songs and create a new song from them. Because it is.

Just as much as taking the same chords and 4/4 rhythms that the vast majority of pop, rock, and folks songs all use and playing them in a new song.
 
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Sure agree to disagree.

Bad analogy? Probably. But one is a physical skill and one is not. I would absolutely get further creating electronic music than playing bass with the same amount of time invested.

Are Phd's in Chemical Engineering and English different but equal? Of course not. Saying the two are equal but different is relativist garbage in my opinion.

So a physical skill is more valuable than a mental skill? Have you used a drum pad before? There are multiple buttons and you use both hands to play one, it is very physically similar to playing any other instrument where you use multiple fingers from both hands. Do you know that some emcees play their drum pad live while the rappers lay down live vocals? How is this drastically different?

Anyways, I would love to see evidence to support your claim that you would get further creating electronic music than bass with the same amount of time invested. I’m sure you don’t have proof though. :thumbsup:
 
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