I have am ATK 810 and its a fantastic bass. Less than 9 lbs...great features, versatile and authoritative sound. I love the looks also. Worth a look. Wider neck at the nut though. Looking forward to your NBD.
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WOW! Really Sire
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Hard to wrap the mind around that price point once they've established themselves as a "budget brand" - sorta removes the cool factor for me, I'd rather buy a big boy bass for that moneyjust my opinion, of course.
Is it really gonna be $1500?
I really like Sires, have 3, no plans to part with any of them. With any of those I felt like I could roll the dice for the money, sight unseen, and it's worked out.
Would definitely need to visit a US dealer (Chicago is closest to me) and play one or two, to consider such a price tag/purchase (not that I am looking to drop $1500 on anything, though). They'll need to expand their US dealership roster to sell many of those IMO.
I bought my used-though-pristine Sadowsky Metro MS4 for $1500. I realize it's comparing used to new, but I can't imagine I'd spend $1500 on a new boutique Sire when I know what I could do on the used market with that kind of jack. But who knows, maybe they'll wow me and everyone, yet again. Even so, I see a new keyboard in my future if I were spending $1500, as I have enough basses.
I would guess that a $1500 Sire would not do well on the used market should you decide to sell at some point.
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LOL yeah, my goal might be to pick up a V10 used for $750 since even a Sadowsky Metro sells used for maybe $1700 on a $3400 retail. The V7's and such have done well on resale since the value to price ratio was already so high. Kinda hard to see that happening with a $1500 Sire, at this point. At a minimum they'll need to let people get accustomed to a high-end Sire. I might buy a luxury Honda, but you'll have to show me it's not just another Honda.
Sire actually removed the link to the V10 from their page this morning.
Wonder if that means they aren't planning on making these anymore?
Wonder if that means they aren't planning on making these anymore?
Probably not. Their parent company, Dame, is a referencing the honorific given to a knighted woman (e.g.: Dame Judi Dench, Dame Maggie Smith, etc…), as in "someone cited for excellence in service to the country and/or crown". "Sire" is the honorific used when addressing a king or highly-placed noble. In other words, Dame instruments are the "knights" of their product line and the Sires are the "kings". (If one wants to get further into the weeds, "Sire" and "Monsieur" both share the same etymological roots.) So, in this case, they're playing off terms used to denote nobility, so the "Sire/Squire" connection thins out quite a bit.
Affordably is relative. What that means to everyone is
different.
While the tragedy of inequality means that there are families starving in this world. Families who know the reality of watching their children die of hunger while there is nothing that they can do to stop it. All the while there are counties with so much abundance and wealth that it insures that both their fat bellies and the dumpsters are full to the brim.
So yeah, Maybe i get it. Such a shame that cheap bass guitars cost so much.
I just wish they would make a passive one. I don't have much use for active so the idea of keeping the weight, the possible confusion in controls and the presence of 2 batteries (if you don't use them they may leak) has refrained me from being one of these beauties. Come on Marcus !!! Fais çà pour les Français !!!n
Probably not. Their parent company, Dame, is a referencing the honorific given to a knighted woman (e.g.: Dame Judi Dench, Dame Maggie Smith, etc…), as in "someone cited for excellence in service to the country and/or crown". "Sire" is the honorific used when addressing a king or highly-placed noble. In other words, Dame instruments are the "knights" of their product line and the Sires are the "kings". (If one wants to get further into the weeds, "Sire" and "Monsieur" both share the same etymological roots.) So, in this case, they're playing off terms used to denote nobility, so the "Sire/Squire" connection thins out quite a bit.
Interesting...very convenient but interesting.
The price looks great for what you are getting. Pretty average price for just a simple USA Fender with no frills.....again, looks like a great price to me.
No doubt, I think we'd all need to hold and play one to know if it's a boutique-quality bass priced at $1500 but worth $3000, or if it's a $1500 USA Fender-quality instrument, worth $1500. I think the regular V7's are pretty much on par with USA Fenders and the sell for $500-800 so hopefully the high-brow Sire is also a similar value comparatively. Can't tell which by looking at photos or reading a description.
Interesting? For that, I thank thee, monsieur. Convenient? Not anywhere near what I was going for, just applying a dash of "Occam's Razor" to your initial hypothesis.
You state, rather bluntly, that Sire appropriated their name from Squier. And while there is a linguistic angle at work that might make someone…specifically, an English-speaking person…pause and say, "Hmmm…
I, on the other hand, offer up that it is a logical spin on the core company's pre-existing name. If they already know the connotations behind the word "Dame", then it isn't a huge leap to think they're familiar with other, related honorific terms, especially since their language and culture relies much more heavily upon honorifics than current American English.
Sorry if the preponderance of evidence is "inconvenient" to your hypothesis…
…but not too sorry.
I'm cool with Sire stepping up their game and that looks like a really nice bass. I'm a big Sire fan and supporter but the price is out of my zip code! Sweet bass though!
High end low grade bass? No thanks. They don't look to bad and could be versatile with the eq but the resale will be terrible. Give me a entry level high grade bass any day of the week over a sire.
First it's not an extraordinary claim. Second, the name isn't just close, it sounds almost exactly the same except for the Q. Also it just so happens to be that Squier was just the market that they were trying to capture when they launched. Moreover the English-speaking Market is exactly who they targeted first. Also if you don't look on the website all the names are tailored around the church, Sanctus, Valentine, Lilies, ... not Medieval Times.Interesting? For that, I thank thee, monsieur. Convenient? Not anywhere near what I was going for, just applying a dash of "Occam's Razor" to your initial hypothesis.
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You state, rather bluntly, that Sire appropriated their name from Squier. And while there is a linguistic angle at work that might make someone…specifically, an English-speaking person…pause and say, "Hmmm…View attachment 3330135", it's assuming a Korean-language-first company would be attempting some linguistic sleight-of-hand aimed at duping said English-speaking market.
I, on the other hand, offer up that it is a logical spin on the core company's pre-existing name. If they already know the connotations behind the word "Dame", then it isn't a huge leap to think they're familiar with other, related honorific terms, especially since their language and culture relies much more heavily upon honorifics than current American English.
Sorry if the preponderance of evidence is "inconvenient" to your hypothesis…
…but not too sorry.
In all likelihood it may be a combination of both, but I can assure you it's not the Boy Scouts running this organization.
Man, come on. Sire? Ok, i'm not kidding, just check out my emperor 5 custom. ang i know it cost me about 6K but come on..
