Oh... to have an Ampeg tube head (and fridge). However, waaaay too much for my needs. Eventually, I am going Mesa (class D) and neo cabs. Cha-Ching!!!
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- Thread starter Kipp Harrington
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Does it do it without the extension cab?
(Doctor, it hurts when I do this.)
Don't use it.
(Don't do it.)
(Doctor, it hurts when I do this.)
Don't use it.
(Don't do it.)
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It may just be that you have unrealistic expectations of an amp that small.
The load is 4 ohms technically.
should be non issue......should
EQ is simple and straight forward with that amp.
I had a fun time playing around with that combo.
Sound cutting out could be many things.
Im rather biased. there is no magic in pushing class d hard.
all the tone and magic would need to be in the pre
and a pre is only half the amp.
But likewise ive used 810s for years.
And very aware of that feeling of hearing 4x or 8x speakers swinging away
its a wonderful thing. Specially digging in and getting consistent notes from a good ol Fender bass
sounds like fun
should be non issue......should
EQ is simple and straight forward with that amp.
I had a fun time playing around with that combo.
Sound cutting out could be many things.
Im rather biased. there is no magic in pushing class d hard.
all the tone and magic would need to be in the pre
and a pre is only half the amp.
But likewise ive used 810s for years.
And very aware of that feeling of hearing 4x or 8x speakers swinging away
its a wonderful thing. Specially digging in and getting consistent notes from a good ol Fender bass
sounds like fun
^ I think this is the cause of the cutting out; the 210 section is being over stressed. An 8 ohm 210 paired with an 8 ohm 410 is a bad idea.
FYI - Amp volume knobs are not linear representations of watts used. It is quite common for amps to barely get louder above the 50% volume setting. It is possible the amp is using up well over 50% of the power it has at that setting, depending on playing style, gain and EQ settings, and the instrument’s output.
Bridging the amp requires an 8 ohm load, two 8ohm speakers in parallel will result in a 4ohm load and likely damage the amps.
The amp in question has a jack intended for an 8 ohm external speaker cabinet. The main combo speakers remains engaged when the external cab is connected. Using the amp as configured is fine.
How hard it can be pushed in terms of volume and tone settings is another question.
How hard it can be pushed in terms of volume and tone settings is another question.
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I'm pretty sure that amp is designed to take a 4 ohm load: the built-in one (8ohm) plus an external 8ohm one. Like the vast majority of combos out there.
OP: glad you like your 'big rig!" 
but i'm guessing, as others have suggested, that your 'momentary' was caused by the amp's attempt at keeping up with your 4-ohm load!
but i'm guessing, as others have suggested, that your 'momentary' was caused by the amp's attempt at keeping up with your 4-ohm load!
Thanks for your input, JRA. I’m new to all this “ohmage” and such. Are you saying the 6 speakers I’m using are too much for the Ampeg to push? Sorry for all these questions... I just want to be informed, and TB has helped me in so many different areas as I am “cutting my teeth” as a bass player. Thanks again!OP: glad you like your 'big rig!"
but i'm guessing, as others have suggested, that your 'momentary' was caused by the amp's attempt at keeping up with your 4-ohm load!
Thanks monsterthompson. This is a great explanation! I still don’t understand why this setup isn’t working, though. The Ampeg is designed to work with an 8 ohm extension cab (which the Rumble 410 is). So this is not making sense to me! Hmmmm...
not exactly. i'm guessing that the 4-ohm load + the limitations of your amp + the 'exuberance' of your playing caused the amp to protect itself, momentarily. the only concern i'd have about your 'way-fun-rig' is the amount of stress on the 2x10 cabinet, especially with a bigger/badder amp. but, i think your amp is telling you, "i'm running out of steam." so if you play the rig within the limits of your current amp = no problems for either cabinet.
mostly have some fun while you dial back the volume (and your expectations of that amp) just a little bit!
mostly have some fun while you dial back the volume (and your expectations of that amp) just a little bit!
Thanks again. I will keep this in mindnot exactly. i'm guessing that the 4-ohm load + the limitations of your amp + the 'exuberance' of your playing caused the amp to protect itself, momentarily. the only concern i'd have about your 'way-fun-rig' is the amount of stress on the 2x10 cabinet, especially with a bigger/badder amp. but, i think your amp is telling you, "i'm running out of steam." so if you play the rig within the limits of your current amp = no problems for either cabinet.
mostly have some fun while you dial back the volume (and your expectations of that amp) just a little bit!
I'm running a BA210 V2 with a rumble 115, I'm only playing finger style, but I've had it cut out momentarily a couple times, when, as JRA said, I'm playing exuberantly. Hasn't seemed to cause any problems, and it's a good reminder that finesse is something I need to work on, along with pretty much everything else
You are using that Extension cabinet jack ( rated 8 ohm ) for your Rumble, and not another jack or splitter?
