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You think the audience doesn't notice? Think again!

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So that was your real mission... simply to gather likes.

Well done.

Regardless, popularity does not equate to reality.
Hate to break it to you, but I really don't care what your version of reality is. It's irrelevant in Jimmyland. So you can either keep pretending you're getting my goat with posts I couldn't give a rat's ass about or you can drop it. Either way, I'm done. Bye now.
 
Hate to break it to you, but I really don't care what your version of reality is. It's irrelevant in Jimmyland. So you can either keep pretending you're getting my goat with posts I couldn't give a rat's ass about or you can drop it. Either way, I'm done. Bye now.

You "don't give a rat's ass" about my posts? Your continued replies say otherwise. And I'm sure you'll reply to this one too.

The Jimmyland reality may occasionally intersect or correlate with my reality and/or even absolute reality. But this is not one of those times.
 
You "don't give a rat's ass" about my posts? Your continued replies say otherwise. And I'm sure you'll reply to this one too.

The Jimmyland reality may occasionally intersect or correlate with my reality and/or even absolute reality. But this is not one of those times.

P.S. I've got confused because we have Spidey2112 and 2112 nicknames.
Is it a cult? A secret society.
What is the meaning behind that magic number 2112?
What would you say if I change my TB user ID to WUTP2112?
 
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P.S. I've got confused because we have Spidey2112 and 2112 nicknames.
Is it a cult? A secret society.
What is the meaning behind that magic number 2112?
What would you say if I change my TB user ID to WUTP2112?

The attempt at deflection is refreshing, but I'm still gonna need a password... you know... for the secret society...

... and no Jedi mind tricks, this time.
 
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An oldies audience likes what they know and they know what they like. Having favorite songs come to life is thrill. Hearing these songs live allows them to appreciate the power in the songs that they never heard when listening to them at home from a record player or CD. Bass and drums stand out in adding energy that you feel. People notice that.

Having someone gush over the fun time that they're having always makes me smile.
 
Lessons learned from this thread:

  1. If you disrespect your audience, and think they're stupid, YOU'RE stupid
  2. If you are sociable, have stage presence, and are generally approachable, you will interact with audience members
  3. Many bass players are not sociable and approachable, and believe bass players are routinely ignored
  4. Many bass players are dour, humorless people, who don't like being called out for it
  5. Audiences are generally comprised of a mixture of clueless idiots, and more intelligent people, due to the fact that this describes society in general
  6. People like to call out other people for being rude by being even more rude
  7. I'm lucky to be fun, approachable, and good looking, because I have never been ignored at shows, even when I was JUST THE BASS PLAYER
  8. Lists are more interesting if they round up to an even 10 points
  9. Lists are more interesting if they round up to an even 10 points
  10. Lists are more interesting if they round up to an even 10 points
Seriously people; JimmyM is not a typical bass player. He's a top-notch professional ENTERTAINER who happens to play bass. Audience members talk to him because he's likeable. And he's right about one thing: If you assume you're audience is stupid, then you are stupid, and you are a joker. So learn from this and STOP IT. Or get out of the business, because there are people who play just as well as you but have better attitudes.
 
One situation was presented as evidence that audiences notice what the bass player is doing.

Myself and some others objected to this because it's a single event. One data point isn't enough to demonstrate something like that. We were called arrogant.

Then over dozens of pages many other data points were presented as further evidence of the claim.

That is not what was presented initially. That's not what skeptics were called arrogant for not accepting. One data point was presented as evidence with multiple apparently implied data points we should have assumed? No.

Bad science was piled on with bad communication.
 
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... And he's right about one thing: If you assume you're audience is stupid, then you are stupid, and you are a joker. So learn from this and STOP IT. Or get out of the business, because there are people who play just as well as you but have better attitudes.

So in other words... if you don't agree with Jimmy, you're even ruder than Jimmy and should get out of the business, because the business should only consist of those in lockstep with Jimmy as opposed to representing society in general.

Yeah... not so much. Maybe Jimmy should leave the business because his intolerance for those who think and believe differently than him is far less representative of society in general. Especially in this day and age of "social justice".

Disagreement != Rude
Difference of opinion != Wrong
Audience may not notice != Audience is stupid
 
one data point does not indicate a trend

One situation was presented as evidence that audiences notice what the bass player is doing.

Myself and some others objected to this because it's a single event. One data point isn't enough to demonstrate something like that. We were called arrogant.

Then over dozens of pages many other data points were presented as further evidence of the claim.

That is not what was presented initially. That's not what skeptics were called arrogant for not accepting. One data point was presented as evidence with multiple apparently implied data points we should have assumed? No.

Bad science was piled on with bad communication.
So please excuse me...I didn't realize that stating an example of how people in our audiences are often smarter than we think they are, then stating that we should have respect for them instead of pretending like they're morons, required scientific study. For my next dozen gigs, I will conduct several double blind studies. I will pick out of each audience 100 people who ever played an instrument and 100 people who didn't, tell the rest that they have to leave, then I'll put a curtain up in front of the stage and have a certified musicologist conduct a test where changes in the bass sound randomly happen, and they hit a button every time they think something has changed. Then we'll compile all the data and publish it through a major college's science department.

And then, and only then, will I come back to you and beg for your approval. Sure, I will be considered a completely daft fool by everyone involved, and I'll probably lose my job by the time it's over. But if one day I see you two, random anonymous people on the internet whom I know nothing about, comment, "Congratulations Jim, this is true science," then it will all be worth it.
 
So please excuse me...I didn't realize that stating an example of how people in our audiences are often smarter than we think they are, then stating that we should have respect for them instead of pretending like they're morons, required scientific study. For my next dozen gigs, I will conduct several double blind studies. I will pick out of each audience 100 people who ever played an instrument and 100 people who didn't, tell the rest that they have to leave, then I'll put a curtain up in front of the stage and have a certified musicologist conduct a test where changes in the bass sound randomly happen, and they hit a button every time they think something has changed. Then we'll compile all the data and publish it through a major college's science department.

And then, and only then, will I come back to you and beg for your approval. Sure, I will be considered a completely daft fool by everyone involved, and I'll probably lose my job by the time it's over. But if one day I see you two, random anonymous people on the internet whom I know nothing about, comment, "Congratulations Jim, this is true science," then it will all be worth it.

"Hey this thing happened recently and it proves this point. If you disagree it's because you're arrogant"

"Well it's just one thing you're telling me about. That doesn't prove anything."

"What are you talking about? It happened a million times. You're arrogant for disagreeing with this trend I've noticed over many, many instances."

Oh, well you just mentioned the one thing initially so that's what I was responding to"

"Well excuuuuuse me. From now on I'm gonna wait for peer review and your approval and waaaahh. Waaaaahhhhh."
 
"Hey this thing happened recently and it proves this point. If you disagree it's because you're arrogant"

"Well it's just one thing you're telling me about. That doesn't prove anything."

"What are you talking about? It happened a million times. You're arrogant for disagreeing with this trend I've noticed over many, many instances."

Oh, well you just mentioned the one thing initially so that's what I was responding to"

"Well excuuuuuse me. From now on I'm gonna wait for peer review and your approval and waaaahh. Waaaaahhhhh."
Hey, like I said before, you go on and think all your audiences are idiots, because you're just clearing a path for the rest of us.
 
Hey, here's a thought...

If you think people don't know or care anything about what you're doing up there, next time they come up to you and pay you a compliment like, "You guys sounded terrific up there," be sure and let them know that you wipe your ass with their opinion.
 
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