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Zoom MS-60B announced... at last

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Well… Invested a few hours in reading the thread, patch ideas threads, manual and FX-List and here are my first impressions. Never took such a scholarly approach with a pedal before ! But this is no ordinary pedal, is it.

I’ve had previous experience with Zoom products before (a couple of acoustic guitar units and the cheap B1, which I still use as a rhythm machine), so I’m aware that there is a bit of a learning curve. In that respect, kudos are given to everybody who contributed to this thread and special hugs to the dudes who went in deeper by giving out tips on programming and the utilities such as the Line Selector and Splitter functions. TB is a great forum, this thread proves it yet again.

As I am (again) scaling down, I bought this pedal mainly to complete my board and use it for its octave and modulation effects, thinking I could a lot of mileage out of one pedal. Well, mileage can be taken indeed ! I agree with Shardik, in a pinch, I could use this and a Mooer DI for possibly the smallest and most comprehensive pedalboard seen around here. I can see guys walking around with everything in their bass case. I was also pleasantly surprised see that Zoom even laid out space to put the Velcro on… 1st time I’d seen that on a pedal.

I haven’t started programming yet (saving that for a rainy day) but I can already see TONS of usable stuff in there (after tweaking a bit). I’m planning to use single effects, but who knows where I’ll be with this pedal in a few weeks.

It’s sometimes hard to remember this is a stomp-box standard-sized pedal… Zoom scored big with this one. The effects who stand out IMO are : 160 comp (wow), limiter, Snow White autowah (wow), Z Tron, DI + (big wow), Bass BB, Acoustic Amp, as well as the Flanger, Octaver and Reggae patch. And Canshaker’s PBClean and Olskool patches are absolutely amazing, thx man !

I found the chorus effects to be less than what I expected, but maybe with some tweaking, I can get what I need. To that effect, suggested settings per effect (as we see with most pedals) woulda been a nice-to-have, but I’ve never seen them in a Zoom package. And it does not reduce this pedal’s value for me. This pedal is going to be fun for a long time, can’t wait to use in band practice Wednesday.

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#742
Welcome to the fold! Post some patches in the other ideas thread if you end up putting together some good stuff.

Another win for PBOlSkool last night. I switched from my p to a jazz bass on the fly to do a tune with a low D (my jazz has a hipshot) but didn't have time to EQ for the bass, and the low end was not there. Called up the OlSkool on speed dial and the j bass was filling the room with boom.
 
#743
Also, had a new rig last night and found most of my pedals need to be replaced with stuff that works better with the rig. The Zoom of course will just need a few tweaks to some of the patches to dial them back in. Handy little bugger.
 
#745
HolmeBass said:
Used my toned-down PB Oldskool patch for most of an oldies/soul gig tonight with my Spector, SM 9.2, and GB UB-212T cabinet. Sounded pretty good, I think I had too much EQ on my amp still as I had a few songs I played clean, so my amp still had some bass boost. W/ PB Oldskool at some points I felt like I was missing too many highs, but overall it worked really really well. Thanks Canshaker!
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Glad you like it!
 
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jumblemind said:
Another win for PBOlSkool last night. I switched from my p to a jazz bass on the fly to do a tune with a low D (my jazz has a hipshot) but didn't have time to EQ for the bass, and the low end was not there. Called up the OlSkool on speed dial and the j bass was filling the room with boom.
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Awesome!
 
#747
You are most welcome Phil. Thank you for coming up with such useful patches.

Next gig I'll dedicate a channel on my amp completely flat for PB Oldskool and I am sure it will kill. Such a warm, fat sound.

I also like your fuzz patch, but gain-staging it in for live work will probably be even harder, given my experience with my TAFM and Swollen Pickle. Something about kicking on the fuzz just makes the drummer and guitarist get crazy loud and bury me right away.
 
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dave_bass5 said:
Hi guys, can someone point me to the PBOlSkool patch please. I'd like to see how it's made up and if I can transfer it to my B3.
I'm seriously considering getting rid of my B3, and getting a 60B. As much as I like the B3 I don't take it to gigs as its too big to put in my gig bag, and I've been tempted to play with it too much at gigs.
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The PB ol'school is it's own patch. Just scroll to it. If that's what you meant. I think it's around the 10th to 15th patch in the 60b.
 
#752
Here is the PB OlSkool on my MS60B:
1: DI 5, gain 67, tone OFF, level 100, hicut OFF.
2: Defret, sense 26, color 4, level 140, tone 9.
3: acoustic, bass 3, mid -7, trebl 0, mid_f 350Hz, gain 41, level 90, bright OFF, cab AC1x18, mix 50.

I think that is it. :)
 
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I have been playing around with this the past few days. I am posting it because it is a prime example of what this pedal is perfect for. It has completely filled the gap for flange, delay, and reverb, in on nice little box; all of which were missing. I didn't even try the amp sims in this situation yet, but already this set up provides endless combinations of very usable tones. It also shows that the Zoom is completely at home with some of the best made pedals (IE fan).
 
#755
I got a Mooer Triangle Buff in today (which sound great on both bass and guitar). I am happy to say that it was easy to get almost identical sounds using the Bass Muff in MS60B. It goes all the way from harsh and noisy to smooth and creamy. One of the better choices in the noise department. ;) I'm sure I'll make some great patches with it.
 
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HolmeBass said:
Confirm pretty low battery life, I drained the two that came with it in just three practice sessions during the first part of the week. Fortunately I have not had any noise issues running it off of a 1spot either (some of mine are only 1700 mA, one of them is the newer 2000 mA one, I can't tell which is which off hand though...).
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My experience is that battery life is very dependent on type of usage. On a pair of 2400 mAh NiMH AAs, I got more than 9 hours continuous using the Octaver patch with a 110 Hz (A2) sine wave input at fairly low level. When adjusting patches, I get at least several hours. But in gigs, at least two or three sets. So far, I've changed them out after two sets with no problem. Also, the low battery warning appears when there's quite a bit of time remaining - 2.5 hours in the Octaver test. I think about 1.16 to 1.19 Volts per AA is where it shuts off. Alkaline AAs will give much better life, of course, and I don't doubt Zoom's seven hour estimate. I know I could use a power supply, but AAs simplify my setup.

Also, everybody - thanks a ton for all the patch info and comments. Really helpful. Awesum little pedal!
 
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