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Unusual Rock Trivia?

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Myna Birds. Rick James, front center; Neil Young, far right.

James was a navy reservist who went underground rather than serve in Vietnam;
he hid in plain sight and fronted this band circa '65 while a deserter from the navy reserve.
He was eventually arrested and served a year before becoming a staff writer for Motown.
He didn't sign as a solo artist until '77. All of which is to say, it took over a decade for James
to become an overnight sensation (which is of course the rule more than the exception).

The Mynah Birds actually recorded for Motown, but never got released due to Rick James' arrest for desertion. They weren't bad, though who knows if they would have actually gone anywhere.

 
In an interview with High Times magazine in 1977 Ted Nugent tells how he avoided the draft. Ted knew he was on the verge of making it the music world. Thirty days before his physical he stopped grooming himself -- no shaving, no showers, no brushing his teeth, letting his long hair get oily and matted, etc. Stopped eating nutritional food 2 weeks prior and survived on junk. The week before he stopped going to the bathroom. He did everything in his pants. Needless to say, he was in pretty bad shape when he showed up for his physical and was humiliated, cursed, pushed around and kicked. The result of all of this was a 4-F classification, Unfit for Military Service.

This is just the highlights of the interview. If you're interested in reading the entire story, I found an excerpt pertaining to his avoiding the draft online here:

Ted Nugent Dodged the Draft?

Is it true? I don't know. I have been told that Ted has since said that this was all made up. But to date I have not seen anything, personally, that would confirm or discount the story. Regardless, it is a pretty good tale!

You bet there's no smoke without fire. He was a bona fide chickenhawk! And still is. The funny thing that he was actually (this is true) a police officer, and made the test into becoming one. Maybe not as rigid as for military service he was good enough. That - he's said so in interviews - is his hardliner stance on any drugs, including weed and alcolhol. He saw too much in that short amount of time. I don't know why a former police officer, would make such things up, later on. The reason is, that there's too many other people still alive who was around him back then. That modus operandi wouldn't get unnoticed by close friends who could confirm/deny it later on. I do think that the teetotal antidrug stance of his is a somewhat mitigating circumstance, and some of his music was actually quite cool, but in the end he turned such a ponce, that it defies description. I don't know, but he's the only one person where I thought is full of drugs, behaving like that, but really is stone cold sober. Beats me.
 
It's been a while since I thought about the "27" phenomenon. Sadly, add my bass hero Gary Thain to that list as well.
People often miss out bassist John Glascock from Jethro Tull, and Canned Heat frontman Alan "The Owl" Wilson too. They were both 27. As Glascock was kind of an obscure figure in Tulls revolving door member policies, I think Wilsons voice is still heard today whenever they play "Going Up The Country" or "On The Road Again" on the radio. That frail high falsetto voice, with blue notes in them.

While Gary Thains death was more or less self induced by drugs, Glascock had a tooth infection that he didn't took care of. It could spread to the heart, and did. He had open heart surgery, and eventually died from the consequences of it. The infection that is, not the complications from the surgery.
 
I think Schon joined Santana after Woodstock. He wasn't very prominent with the group, for the most part, though obviously Santana saw a lot to like there. When he jumped into Journey with co-founder Greg Rolie, his style really took hold, and that was that.
Silly me. I saw an interview with Schon many years ago and he said he joined Santana in 1969 when he was 15 and was with the band at Woodstock, something i always took for truth and never verified. The only actual footage of Woodstock i've ever watched was Ten Years After, Sha Na Na, and some of Jimi Hendrix. Sorry for the wrong info. :wacky:
 
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Yoko was big into numerology

Well, I think she was bigger into control and manipulation, thus her tendency not to let things just be (as she couldn't let John's reencounter with his -then- only son Julian be either). Doesn't surprise me she couldn't let nature be, it had to be driven by her superstitions and b/s, as everything in her orbit.
 
Silly me. I saw an interview with Schon many years ago and he said he joined Santana in 1969 when he was 15 and was with the band at Woodstock, something i always took for truth and never verified. The only actual footage of Woodstock i've ever watched was Ten Years After, Sha Na Na, and some of Jimi Hendrix. Sorry for the wrong info. :wacky:
I am like you. For years I could see Schon on stage with A big Afro behind Carlos on stage at Woodstock. It must be a vision I dreamed.
 
Honch, seriously, you have "triggered" my OCD. Those three words just keep looping through my brain.
John Lennon's much-hated biographer Albert Goldman accused the ex-beatle of having re-written the song 'Three Blind Mice' over and over again. "You Never Know" is similarly simple and repetitive, and is currently making me simmer with resentment at some of the crimes perpetrated in the name of English Music Hall Tradition.

If you haven't elaborated on this, please do so as I am curious. Just asking now before I finish the thread and get distracted by something else!
 
Billy Ocean ...
Get Outta My Dreams Get Into My Car.

In the late 80s I was playing in a band that got signed to MCA Records, and one of the original songs we were working on was called Shut Up And Get In The Car. Billy Ocean's single dropped while we were in the studio hashing out our tune, and the producer told us "forget it, it's been done now".
 
Before emigrating from England to the USA to play with Miles Davis on his seminal and quite controversial Bitches Brew era "jazz" releases John also gave lessons to a young guitar student named Jimmy Page and played in a jazz combo with Jack Bruce on upright bass before Jack switched to playing electric. That was before any bands named Cream or Led Zeppelin existed. :cool:
That would be the Graham Bond Quartet in 1963 IIRC. Bond, originally an alto sax player, left Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated* to form his own band, taking Korner's rhythm section (Bruce and Ginger Baker, who had replaced Charlie Watts) with him. McLaughlin rounded up the combo until Baker had him fired for being, in Ginger's words, "a whiner and a miserable moaner"... John was replaced by the late, great Dick Heckstall-Smith on tenor and soprano, while Bond switched to organ (he was a pioneer of the Hammond in Britain, and influenced all the prominent players in the scene: Brian Auger, Jon Lord, Georgie Fame, Alan Price, you name it - McLaughlin also had stints with Fame and Auger). The band's name accordingly changed to 'The Graham Bond ORGANisation'. The line-up lasted until Baker convinced Bond to also fire Jack because his style was, wait for it, "too busy", and carry on without a bass player. For the next few gigs Bruce kept coming to play and get paid, until Baker pointed a knife to his belly and said "If you show up one more time, this goes in you".
(Of course, he had to relent one year later when Clapton accepted to form a band with him on condition that he convinced Jack to be on board - Eric had played with Bruce when the latter replaced John McVie for a while in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.)
Other Bond alumni include two incredible drummers, Jon Hiseman who went on to form Colosseum with Heckstall-Smith and John 'Pugwash' Weathers, later of Gentle Giant. Graham also played in some of Bruce and Baker's post-Cream projects. McLaughlin too raised some money for his trip to America to take part in the In a Silent Way sessions by recording about half of the tracks in Bruce's free jazz album Things We Like (again with Heckstall-Smith and Hiseman, and Jack on the upright - it was his first solo album but was released after Songs for a Tailor). They later reconnected when Bruce was asked to join Tony Williams's Lifetime.

I could go on for days with this stuff. The friends-and-family tree of John Mayall collaborators is often deservedly brought up in rock histories, while that other veritable Who's Who of British jazz and pop heroes that is the list of Alexis Korner associates is much less so (I'd flat out call him nearly as essential to the development of British pop as the Beatles were). Colosseum's connections are also sizable.
 
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