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12 year old know it all!...Not!

I'm sure this has been asked before, but of the 10-odd pages I've read to date, I haven't seen you or anyone else substantiate this assertion of yours:

Can you explain what and why someone's weight has anything to do with the particular situation? Saying that 'everything has to do with it to one degree or another' sounds nebulous and merely an assumption made of whole cloth.
No. I really can't. It just all folds into the picture in very subtle ways. We live in a world where the slightest movement of a single muscle on a person's face can completely change the meaning of the words they are using. A thing like someone's weight gives at least a first impression of their past. Maybe they are a nervous eater. Maybe they have a thyroid problem. Maybe they watch TV all day. All of it folds into possibilities included in one's first impression.
 
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Wow, a 56 year old man ranting about a "fat". 12 year old.. Consider yourself fortunate I was not his father, or someone like me

I don't like GC too much, but I don't see myself there anytime soon. I turn up and plug in, then a kid invades my space and his dad comes around and has a go at me for telling the kid to go away?

Who cares if the kid is fat? Who cares if Dad is fat? You are going to start trouble because your kid has a big mouth?

Oi, we need a sixer of VB to start something where I come from, and it wouldn't be over that !! RE-LAX, will ya'?
 
I'm very glad we found common ground!

Except most young adults are stupider and even more arrogant in their 20's than they ever were at any point leading up to then. The brick of life really doesn't smack them upside the head until they hit about 35 and they realize they're going to weddings of friends of friends and when they go out to the bar, they feel old. I'm glad family life saved me the disgrace of putting myself through an extended period of that delusional naïveté.
 
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I didn't read all pages but it sounds to me as if the prejudging that's going on is from the TBer's who are dumping on the OP. None of you were there. I experienced a similar situation, except in my case I was playing a keyboard and a kid walked up and started hammering on the keys, too. I told him to go away. He went and got Daddy and that's when the fight started. For real.

One has to be careful when talking to someone else's precious little darling, but they can be sniveling, insufferable little sh!ts. I mean the kid, but could go either way. The only teaching moment I see here is that the parent should have been present to mind the child. Parents should mind their kids. Parents are to blame.

Most of us know the world doesn't work the way we'd like it to. Now the rest of you can get out your unicorns and play Kumbaya.
 
No. I really can't. It just all folds into the picture in very subtle ways. We live in a world where the slightest movement of a single muscle on a person's face can completely change the meaning of the words they are using. A thing like someone's weight gives at least a first impression of their past. Maybe they are a nervous eater. Maybe they have a thyroid problem. Maybe they watch TV all day. All of it folds into possibilities included in one's first impression.

That's some unique thinking.
 
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No. I really can't. It just all folds into the picture in very subtle ways. We live in a world where the slightest movement of a single muscle on a person's face can completely change the meaning of the words they are using. A thing like someone's weight gives at least a first impression of their past. Maybe they are a nervous eater. Maybe they have a thyroid problem. Maybe they watch TV all day. All of it folds into possibilities included in one's first impression.
That says more about the person making those assumptions (which, in this case, would be you) than it ever does about the person they're making these assumptions about. Thanks for making my argument.
 
People make all sorts of assumptions based on first impressions, particularly appearance. It might not be fair, but it's the way it is. FWIW, I myself was a fat 12 year old (really fat, I might add). But I was also respectful.
 
People make all sorts of assumptions based on first impressions, particularly appearance. It might not be fair, but it's the way it is. FWIW, I myself was a fat 12 year old (really fat, I might add). But I was also respectful.
When I was in sales, it served me very well. But you don't just pounce on it. You test the waters to see if it's accurate. If a guy is wearing a Cubs hat, it means he may be a fan. It also may mean his grandmother from Chicago bought him the hat and he has to wear it because he's shopping with her - and he doesn't even like baseball.
 
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Read my original reply to you. Now read the later ones. Give it a moment or two. Or, you know, don't.
This? "Can you explain what and why someone's weight has anything to do with the particular situation? Saying that 'everything has to do with it to one degree or another' sounds nebulous and merely an assumption made of whole cloth."

Heh. You didn't get my meaning. Sorry. I suspect you don't want to. That's fine. And, again, yes, my post say more about me than the kid. As does everyone's post regarding themselves. After all, they are my posts. :D
 
This? "Can you explain what and why someone's weight has anything to do with the particular situation? Saying that 'everything has to do with it to one degree or another' sounds nebulous and merely an assumption made of whole cloth."

Heh. You didn't get my meaning.
I did get your meaning. I was hoping you'd understand the argument I was making (which is a pretty straightforward one). I suspect you either couldn't or didn't want to. That's fine, no real harm. Odds are good, plenty of others did, though. Have a nice weekend.
 
I didn't read all pages but it sounds to me as if the prejudging that's going on is from the TBer's who are dumping on the OP. None of you were there. I experienced a similar situation, except in my case I was playing a keyboard and a kid walked up and started hammering on the keys, too. I told him to go away. He went and got Daddy and that's when the fight started. For real.

One has to be careful when talking to someone else's precious little darling, but they can be sniveling, insufferable little sh!ts. I mean the kid, but could go either way. The only teaching moment I see here is that the parent should have been present to mind the child. Parents should mind their kids. Parents are to blame.

Most of us know the world doesn't work the way we'd like it to. Now the rest of you can get out your unicorns and play Kumbaya.

He decided to have a childish argument with a child. There is no assumption, he laid it all out in the op
 

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