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12 year old know it all!...Not!

#301
So being "fat" means that you're either a failure as a human being or that society has failed you as a human being, right? Is that about where this is going? Or is it more about having respect for one another and enough humility to cast aside those aspersions, juxtaposed against an attitude that sees it as a fundamental breakdown of personal will power undeserving of anything but tough love and hard lessons about reaping the fruit of living less than optimally? It's hard for me to make the leap from OP's decision to include ones personal appearance into a story where that trait didn't come into play, to some peoples assertions that folks are gonna be judged by every last freckle on their tit and "that's just how it is". Can someone fill in the blanks for me?
 
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Joe Nerve said:
Do people still read books? If so, they need to check out talkbass. It's so much more entertaining.
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Because Internet.

I can't think of a more appropriate place to leave this. Goodnight, y'all.
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#308
People like to have their agenda.
I say the kid was used to a certain amount freedom and used it to try to make you his friend... You saw through it and called him out on his bs....prob was something new to him.people want to hate...OK let them hate.
A 12 year old should look to elders for guidance not to bust on them..
My son sucks advice from people who know like gold..he knows that that's where knowledge comes from
..experience.
If you ran into my son he would hang on your every word if you know how to play.
That's how he rolls.
 
#310
Random thoughts:

Kids are trying to find their way in the world. Some of them are better at it than others. Maybe they have more resources, to help them, or maybe more practice.

Nerves and stress and excitement can cause people of all ages to behave in ways that maybe they wouldn't otherwise. Maybe the kid was so excited about his first lesson that he lost track of the "don't talk to strangers" rule. Maybe the 56-year-old had had a crappy day at work and wanted to be left alone (which is why he went to GC...ok, maybe not).

One interaction doesn't necessarily prove anything about anybody.

The comment early on about losing a opportunity to make a new friend is solid. If that's too much effort, deflection often works: "Pretty excited about your first lesson, huh?" Throw the kid's focus back on himself and let him talk. He'll quit running you down, if that's what you think it was. You don't even have to listen; someone will come for him eventually.

If I am presented with an unexpected opportunity to make someone feel good about themselves or bad about themselves, I try to remember to aim for "good." It probably won't cost me much.
 
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gfen said:
I'm legitimately surprised at the way some of you people view children in this thread.

A 12 year old spoke to an adult, and that's instantly disrespectful? How? Why? OK, so maybe the boy wasn't the most polite, but still to think that a child must remain silent in the face of an adult is baffling; moreso when I see people suggesting that this is a root cause in the failure of the newer generations overall.

JFC, some of you people have awful opinions and I'm glad I'm not related to you.

I'm 42. While I might suggest to my eight year olds to come across a little more polite in a discussion if I was the parent, I hardly think that one of them daring to speak to an adult is as grevious as sin. Frankly, I'd be happy my kids were outgoing enough to engage with someone, even.

I don't even have enough left in me to comment on the fat comments or weirdly aggressive behaviour of the OP. -shrug-
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Exactly!! Its a sign of intelligence and maturity for a young kid to try to engage in conversation with an adult....this is a good thing!! It probably just didn't come out as tactfully as the OP wanted and he overreacted as a result. He was probably just trying to connect with a fellow musician....

As far as everyone chiming in on how they were raised, I was raised in an "old-school" manner as well but that doesn't make it right, in fact certain "traditional" methods of "correction" have been proven to cause serious issues well into adulthood, not good!!
 
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mellowinman said:
When I was 12, which was around 1937, if a child spoke at all, we just went ahead and shot 'em. That's why I didn't speak until I was 27, and then I got most a the words wrong. Back then, children worked in coal mines, and gave their parents all their money, and were danged grateful to do it! Most of my friends died from black lung by the age a 15! We needs ta bring back them times! People was happier in those days, even if they didn't know it!
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mellowinman said:
When I was 12 years old, my father used to murder me in my sleep about once a month. After I had died 73 or 74 times, it got to the point where I couldn't even squeeze out a ghost anymore. In those days, parents would give their children a case of the whooping cough, or black plague, just so's the kids would know they had to mind, and God help 'em if they were ever late to supper, after 16 hours toiling in the fields! I remember me and all my little friends fought the Nazis off singlehandedly when they tried to overtake our town. The grownups just sat by and laughed and ate sandwiches while all of us were being hit by machine gun fire, and blowing up from mortar shells. Back then, if you had a arm blowed off, they'd just sew another one on, and send you right back out there! It got to the point where I had two left arms, and one a my feet was a size 16. Really made shoe shopping hard, I guess, but back then we almost never had any shoes anyway. We'd just nail sandpaper to our feet, and pour turpentine on it.
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LMFAO!! I had to bookmark both these, pure gold!!:)
 
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You know, what's really sad is that the 12 year old probably thought he was being genuinely helpful to an elderly man and using the opportunity to demonstrate his unique talent and possibly earn some praise from a stranger. Kids live in a school culture where they get corrected all the time and it's never taken personally.

It's usually the parents that get all pissed at the teacher for daring to give their precious little Suzi a D on her report card. The OPs comments probably only blindsided and confused the poor kid. Not what he expected in much the same way this thread is not what the OP expected.

Isn't it Ironic. Dontcha think?
 
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I used to suffer through bratty kids all the time ( working a music store in the 80's) as a staffer we always
had to be professional. Had a kid we called "Little Eddy" as he came in on Saturday afternoons dropped off downtown
by his loaded parents with a huge pile of cash in his pocket. He would shred EV style until we called time and politely
but firmly unplugged him (after like 40 mins of whammy pyrotechnics on a guitar he wasn't going to buy).
One day he was so put off by being "cut short" he blurted out "My Dad can buy and sell you people!"
(him coming from Englewood Cliffs I expect Dad did make serious $$$) I just told him "Dad can't buy what isn't for
sale, now off you go!"

As to the OP trying to make an issue out of the kid's weight, that betrays an ugly part of him from my view -
When you got nothing to say about somebody except to try and turn a physical characteristic into a
character judgment - You really just have nothing to say, and should shut up till you do.
It sources from the exact same place the needy and insecure always go when they need a superiority fix.
Would be just the same as if it was a black kid and he said
"well lil Sambo there claimed he had perfect pitch har har! "
or " kid that bratty is probably a sausage smoker"
You can never come off looking like anything but the *ssh*le when you go there.
To paraphrase MLK - need to be judging not by appearance but the content of their character.
 
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