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2009 International GTG
- Thread starter unclejam
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You are both missing my point- so what if there are two or three events like this next year - so if somebody starts a GTG in Switzerland next year, which is open to all comers.
By your logic this would also have to be called TB International GTG 2009!
So how would it be distinguished from the one being proposed in this thread in the US?
It makes no sense to have a title that is so meaningless!
- Jul 8, 2007
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Every international event has been hosted by different countries, which helps them to be international, if not making it. Think of Olympics, Eurocup, etc. I sincerely believe Bruce has a point and American people should take a good look at the rest of the world, rather than thinking we are siting at the center of it without knowing what has been going on. Just because people do not play baseball in europe and the organizers call it "World Series" (or UN headquarters being located here, what is that?), doesn't make them international.
Or just organize GTGs at states each year and call it international.
Or just organize GTGs at states each year and call it international.
Would there be any interest in putting a stake in the ground as follows:
2009 in the USA. My vote would be Chicago. Excellent international access from Asia and Europe.
2011 in Europe. This allows people to make longer range plans that they could possibly tie in a family vacation to make it work for many people.
I would volunteer to work a small committee together some of the lads over here to scope out cities, costs, suggestions and share this with the TB community.
Does that hold any appeal?
2009 in the USA. My vote would be Chicago. Excellent international access from Asia and Europe.
2011 in Europe. This allows people to make longer range plans that they could possibly tie in a family vacation to make it work for many people.
I would volunteer to work a small committee together some of the lads over here to scope out cities, costs, suggestions and share this with the TB community.
Does that hold any appeal?
Good points made here, Ed. Thanks for those.It wouldn't matter to me where any such future event was held. I do agree that, due to the preponderance of US board members, a US location would result in the best attendance. Wherever the event was to be held, the potential attendees would need to reach a decision regarding travel and the associated expenses. Someone (actually, a large number of someone's) would be subjected to the inconveniences and expense of traveling.
There were guys that were less than 2 hours from this 1st Int'l GTG that couldn't afford it anymore than others living outside the US. That same scenario will take place regardless of where the chosen location is.
When a location is decided upon, people will decide whether it's worth it to attend or not. I'll only say that this 1st attempt was excellent and if I had to spend what it likely cost for Bassybill and Chilipepper to come over, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It's not the gear, it's not the food or beer (which was superb BTW), it's not even the venue .... it's all about the people you get to meet and after meeting so many great TBers it'd be well worth the traveling, for me ...
Or, we could just have Lindfield beat this subject into a coma until the thread gets closed .... seriously, Bruce, give it a rest ...
To set trolling posts in this thread aside for a moment, it's obvious to anyone that TB is an international community, but with by far the majority of the membership in the USA. That means attendance at any event hosted elsewhere is likely to be less than at a US based event. That doesn't mean GTGs can't be held elsewhere, of course. But it does mean that an event intended to attract the biggest numbers from the whole community is best held in the States. That's obvious to anybody.
What it gets called isn't really a big deal, but if anyone finds the title of any GTG event lacking in information about the venue, then clicking on the relevant thread usually yields some good clues as to where it's being held.
But why should I have to trawl though dozens of threads about the US which don't interest me?
It's like saying that MM should go through all the threads in Double Bass forums in case somebody has mistakenly posted about a green Sadowsky bass - why do we have sensible naming conventions for threads - but not GTGs?
This is just simple logic to me and I don't see why you need to insult me by saying it's "trolling"....?
How about "respect" for my point of view, rather than just dismissing it out of hand?
It's like saying that MM should go through all the threads in Double Bass forums in case somebody has mistakenly posted about a green Sadowsky bass - why do we have sensible naming conventions for threads - but not GTGs?
This is just simple logic to me and I don't see why you need to insult me by saying it's "trolling"....?
How about "respect" for my point of view, rather than just dismissing it out of hand?
Sorry, Bruce - you can claim you're being logical if you like, but it sounds like trolling to me, and to a lot of other people here.
You've stated your opinion on many occasions since this idea was first mooted. The event last weekend was a resounding success by any standard, reflecting the tremendous efforts put into it (most notably by John and Kevin). But rather than congratulate people on this, saying how pleased you are that it went so well for the people who attended, complimenting them on making it work, et cetera, you've chosen to complain - about where it was and what it was called. Poor show, in my opinion.
Now please, give it a rest. We're all too well aware of your entirely negative views about it. Enough.
You've stated your opinion on many occasions since this idea was first mooted. The event last weekend was a resounding success by any standard, reflecting the tremendous efforts put into it (most notably by John and Kevin). But rather than congratulate people on this, saying how pleased you are that it went so well for the people who attended, complimenting them on making it work, et cetera, you've chosen to complain - about where it was and what it was called. Poor show, in my opinion.
Now please, give it a rest. We're all too well aware of your entirely negative views about it. Enough.
I am not negative at all - we're just not talking about that - but about the future - how these events are classified in future.
Great for all those people - but that's not what we're talking about here!
Great for all those people - but that's not what we're talking about here!
I had a wonderful time at Trinity Jazz Summerschool last week - met loads of old friends and made new ones - including people from Switzerland and Brazil . I'm really positive about it and upbeat...
But it has nothing to do with this - it's all about putting things in appropriate places - I was at a great jam session last night, where I played for over 3 hours - great fun - should I mention that in every thread or stick to the subject in the title ?
But it has nothing to do with this - it's all about putting things in appropriate places - I was at a great jam session last night, where I played for over 3 hours - great fun - should I mention that in every thread or stick to the subject in the title ?
Bruce....I can hop on Easyjet's 3pm flight into Gatwick, jump on the train to Brighton, kick open your door, throw you off your computer and give you a big baddas wedgie that'll make your nads swell and change hue.
Is it worth the risk?
Is it worth the risk?
I'd rather come to Switzerland and have a few drinks with you - I think I can convince my other half to go Geneva for a holiday - we were in Zell am See (Austria) recently and love the Lakes!
This might be a good place to organize the 2011 International GTG?
For everyone abroad, Geneva is well placed in the middle of Europe. Lots of air service from British Airways, Air France, Lufthansa, Alitalia, KLM from their hubs. Each of those carriers are in alliances enabling access. In terms of lower cost airfare, there are a lot of charter flights into London from the USA that connect with low cost carriers into Geneva.
My major downside is gear. However, being well positioned here might make the European manufacturers take notice and support the event.
Before doing anything else, does this suggestion hold any appeal from TB'rs in Europe and abroad?
I'd go for a beautiful location, over gear any day! But then I seem to be in a minority around here...
I am just another (very happy) TBer and I can see reason both sides.
One possibility would be UK (so people both sides of the pond can be there) or Frankfurt before the MusikMesse, in March (many people will be there for the event anyway). The only problem with Frankfurt is that the date is not really that far away as August. Still I am open to listen to what other voices of reason have to say. Geneva is a great thought too
One possibility would be UK (so people both sides of the pond can be there) or Frankfurt before the MusikMesse, in March (many people will be there for the event anyway). The only problem with Frankfurt is that the date is not really that far away as August. Still I am open to listen to what other voices of reason have to say. Geneva is a great thought too
JFK International Airport is only located in one country. And every single one of their flights does not go to or come from another country. They are simply able to.
Do you have a problem with this? Should they rename it JFK International Airport - Hosted in NYC, NU, USA
Well I thought we had put this to bed - but if you want to prolong it then ....[shrugs]?
So - it is not just titled "International Airport" is it...? That would be stupid...
So if it was titled for example : "NewYork International GTG" - then I have no problem.
But just to say "International" with no further qualification means you are limiting yourself to one per year and meaning that people don't know where exactly you are talking about without having to open the thread.
As TB gets bigger, I think we need to be more careful about how we label things and to think about the fact that we may have GTGs open to all in other places...?
