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A local TB'er ripped me off!!

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No, he clearly said he did not break it off, only that it was frozen, then broken. That does not happen by itself. Frozen is not broken, it may be irreparable but there is a difference between broken and frozen. A frozen nut can be potentially released with patience and experience. Broken is not reversible.
Dude, listen up. It was too hard to turn while the neck was attached to the bass, then I was able to loosen and remove the nut once I took the neck off. It did not break at that point. That's when I could see that the end of the truss rod had the end missing, only a few turns of thread left on it.
 
There are people here defending the seller by saying the buyer wasn't qualified to be messing with the truss rod and should have taken it to a local expert... Is the seller qualified to be messing with the truss rod, as he says he did, before selling it? The last person to touch it before the buyer was the seller... not the guy who sold it to the seller before the current transaction.

To bring in the previous seller is just a poor attempt at distraction by the current seller.
 
I have had these issues before, and one with someone very well known. Both of us were correct. I sold a bass that was fine. You just couldn't dial in super low action because of a small neck hump which was typical on this builders early work. We went back and forth for a while, then I just refunded the money and took the bass back. I haven't touched it and still play it a lot.

Truss rods can be sticky issues (no pun intended) and while a relatively cheap and easy fix (often can make the bass better then the original work) its hard to want to swallow the additional cost immediately after buying the bass. Most truss rods can take serious torque, so if a rod is actually broken, you'd have had to do a King Kong on it.

In this case, as much as the seller might not want to, he should at least have offered to split the cost of repair. If he is merely claiming you picked it up, you own it, I tend to think that there was an issue to begin with and the seller just wanted to get rid of it.

Either way, its not TB's fault. And yes, not everyone here is always on the up and up all the time.

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But in this particular case, there is enough he said / she said to keep me from jumping on the buyer's bandwagon. The buyer had opportunity to examine the bass prior to taking possession. The buyer screwed around with the neck and the truss rod and was inexperienced with truss rods.
I do have experience with truss rods, which is why I didn't force it to begin with. What does the rusty end of metal tell you?? Tells me that its been exposed for a while...
 
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Have you found the seller? Can admins check his ip in talkbass' db? Have you tried to find this scummer on the ebay? You can photo that bass and use google's "find image" service to try to find some additional information about the seller (well, probably)
I know his name, phone and where he lives. I've contacted my cc company as well as paypal, and if paypal uses the aforementioned loophole, my credit card company will cover me.
 
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Truss rods sell for what... $13-$40? I'd call Lakland and see about getting a replacement. If you know enough to find that it is broken then is it possible you could also fix it yourself? If I am not mistaken replacing a truss rod is easier than replacing a pre or pups. The bass I mentioned earlier needed $65 worth of repairs to make it playable once I changed the strings.. Since that time I have spent about $400 modding the bass.... and as I said.. it is one of my favorite basses today. Not saying you should just suck it up and move on.. but sometimes that is the best thing to do.
While I have changed pickups, bridges and tuners, I've never done low level work on truss rods so I wouldn't have a clue how to fix it.
 
Allow me to clarify. I first saw the base here on TB, and messaged the seller. Then I discovered that it was on reverb also. I made the purchase through reverbs system for the extra layer of security, even though it cost me 50 more dollars to do so.

If you made the purchase through Reverb's system, then the negative feedback should be removed from this site.
 
Dude, listen up. It was too hard to turn while the neck was attached to the bass, then I was able to loosen and remove the nut once I took the neck off. It did not break at that point. That's when I could see that the end of the truss rod had the end missing, only a few turns of thread left on it.

When i first went to adjust it, it was frozen. Not wanting to risk breaking it, I called Lakland and asked their advice. The tech on the ihine referred me to Carl Pedigo, evidently a highly regarded luthier in Chicago. He advised me to remove the neck and then remove the nut from the truss rod. Once I got the neck off, the nut unscrewed relatively easily, at which point it came off after only 3 turns. There was 1/4" inch of truss rod, the end being pointy and rusty. It obviously had been broken long before, and a different nut attached.

When you described the nut as "frozen" that typically indicates that it won't turn either way...that is what is misleading about your account of this problem.

It wasn't frozen after all, so it is feasible that the seller was able to turn it and make adjustments.
 
If you made the purchase through Reverb's system, then the negative feedback should be removed from this site.
I disagree sir. I first saw the bass here on this site. He was selling it here under the same pretenses as he was on Reverb. Shall I not leave feedback here, simply because I used Reverb's system I make the purchase, rather than just paying him straight with paypal?
 
When you described the nut as "frozen" that typically indicates that it won't turn either way...that is what is misleading about your account of this problem.

It wasn't frozen after all, so it is feasible that the seller was able to turn it and make adjustments.
If he turned it, he unreasonably forced it, because it was too tight to safely turn by the time it reached me.
 
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He hadn't had the bass checked out when he bought it, he just okayed it a couple of times and then put it in a closet until u bought it.
Until I bought it. I found it odd that he would adjust it, especially since he didn't seem to know much about these things. He stated in his classified as that he'd had a pro set up. In retrospect that claim is highly suspect.
 
Between the seemingly penned-while-drinking posts and the poor grammar due to lack of edumecation, this thread is nearly impossible to comprehend.

Good luck with your predicament, OP.

Too bad the deal didn't happen here like the JPATA ordeal. The detectives here had that kid's mother's Paypal info and his home address within an hour.
 
Between the seemingly penned-while-drinking posts and the poor grammar due to lack of edumecation, this thread is nearly impossible to comprehend.

Good luck with your predicament, OP.

Too bad the deal didn't happen here like the JPATA ordeal. The detectives here had that kid's mother's Paypal info and his home address within an hour.
Sir, I have the seller's paypal info, name, address, and phone number. As I do not wish to have any kind of physical confrontation or give the seller any cause to get a restraining order, I'm trying to do this in a legally proper way.
 
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