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Almost got robbed...

Well idiots tried to rob me again on Saturday. This time it looks like they tried to pop the door of its hinges with a pry bar judging from the damage on the door. They weren't successful however. My alarm once again went off and scared off the little sweethearts. They are lucky that they did not get inside. My dog (an approx. 45-50 lb pitbull who I rescued from an abusive home) would have loved to meet them.

Not the same people this time. Last time two witnesses saw two white males around 14 or 15 walk up to my front door before they kicked it in. This time my neighbor said she saw a black two door nissan with 3 to 4 black males around 16 to 19 in my driveway about a minute before she heard my alarm go off. I don't live in a terrible area. There haven't been many breakins in my neighborhood. I am starting to think that someone knows that I have music equipment in my home and is tipping off others so that they can break in.

Strangely enough, a week ago on March 30th, I had a kid (sounded like a teenager) call me at 11:30 at night from a blocked number on my home land line. He claimed to be "Mike". Mike is a general enough name that of course I know a Mike. When I suggested a last name to him, he latched on to it and said that that was him. He was adamant that I come over right now to "hang out with him" and he gave me an address that is about 15 minutes away. I played stupid and let him think he had me snowed. Told him OK, then called Mike on my cell phone. I already knew that he hadn't called me, but Mike confirmed that he wasn't the person who had called me. Hell. Mike and I are getting old. We don't call each other up at nearly midnight to "hang out". I thought it likely that it was a kid across the street from the address I was given wanting to get a few laughs from watching someone show up they just prank called. Now I am starting to wonder if it wasn't an attempt to get me to leave so someone could rob me. That notion seemed unlikely at the time as it was pouring down rain that evening, and most burglaries happen during the day during nicer weather.

I don't hang around many teenaged kids, so the pool of people who know that I have this stuff in my home is rather small. I have my suspicions about who it may be. I wonder if they are stupid enough to try breaking in while I am home.
 
Well idiots tried to rob me again on Saturday. This time it looks like they tried to pop the door of its hinges with a pry bar judging from the damage on the door. They weren't successful however. My alarm once again went off and scared off the little sweethearts. They are lucky that they did not get inside. My dog (an approx. 45-50 lb pitbull who I rescued from an abusive home) would have loved to meet them.

Not the same people this time. Last time two witnesses saw two white males around 14 or 15 walk up to my front door before they kicked it in. This time my neighbor said she saw a black two door nissan with 3 to 4 black males around 16 to 19 in my driveway about a minute before she heard my alarm go off. I don't live in a terrible area. There haven't been many breakins in my neighborhood. I am starting to think that someone knows that I have music equipment in my home and is tipping off others so that they can break in.

Strangely enough, a week ago on March 30th, I had a kid (sounded like a teenager) call me at 11:30 at night from a blocked number on my home land line. He claimed to be "Mike". Mike is a general enough name that of course I know a Mike. When I suggested a last name to him, he latched on to it and said that that was him. He was adamant that I come over right now to "hang out with him" and he gave me an address that is about 15 minutes away. I played stupid and let him think he had me snowed. Told him OK, then called Mike on my cell phone. I already knew that he hadn't called me, but Mike confirmed that he wasn't the person who had called me. Hell. Mike and I are getting old. We don't call each other up at nearly midnight to "hang out". I thought it likely that it was a kid across the street from the address I was given wanting to get a few laughs from watching someone show up they just prank called. Now I am starting to wonder if it wasn't an attempt to get me to leave so someone could rob me. That notion seemed unlikely at the time as it was pouring down rain that evening, and most burglaries happen during the day during nicer weather.

I don't hang around many teenaged kids, so the pool of people who know that I have this stuff in my home is rather small. I have my suspicions about who it may be. I wonder if they are stupid enough to try breaking in while I am home.

Regardless of the law, start setting traps :). Small things like flying nails and ridiculously sticky paper.
 
Do you have a National Rifle Association sticker on your front door? You should...

And I'd even consider buying a cheap camcorder from a garage sale or something, or a security camera. Rig it up pointing at your gear, and run a cable to a hidden VCR with an 8-hour tape in it.

Also, does the local police know that you've been invaded TWICE now? And that they should be a little nosier on your block?
 
If an intruder's in your house, you don't have to think before shooting.

Unfortunatly, you do. In the USA, we have very strict rules of engagement, both in the military and domestically. You can't shoot somebody in war unless the person has a gun and is aiming at you or poses a threat. Similarily, if an intruder breaks into your own home, technically you can't shoot him unless he has intentions to hurt you.

There were many cases where intruders actually sued home owners for shooting them upon entry, and won.

Therefore, in order to shoot an intruder and get away with it, you have to plant a knife in his hand after you kill him or you'll get sued and maybe jailed
 
Do you have a National Rifle Association sticker on your front door? You should...

And I'd even consider buying a cheap camcorder from a garage sale or something, or a security camera. Rig it up pointing at your gear, and run a cable to a hidden VCR with an 8-hour tape in it.

Also, does the local police know that you've been invaded TWICE now? And that they should be a little nosier on your block?

I contacted the police department and made a report for each incident. I don't have an NRA sticker on the door. I figure why advertise that there are firearms ready to be stolen inside. The camera idea would be a little pricey, but... I do work for a security company. I might be able to snag some cheap CCTV stuff. I'll check on that it on monday. Probably outta my fiscal reach however.
 
Unfortunatly, you do. In the USA, we have very strict rules of engagement, both in the military and domestically. You can't shoot somebody in war unless the person has a gun and is aiming at you or poses a threat. Similarily, if an intruder breaks into your own home, technically you can't shoot him unless he has intentions to hurt you.

There were many cases where intruders actually sued home owners for shooting them upon entry, and won.

Therefore, in order to shoot an intruder and get away with it, you have to plant a knife in his hand after you kill him or you'll get sued and maybe jailed

Actually Oklahoma has what is called the "Make My Day" law. In a nutshell, if someone breaks into your home while you are there, you are given the assumption that they have both the means and intent to harm you. This gives you the right to use deadly force against them legally.
 
Actually Oklahoma has what is called the "Make My Day" law. In a nutshell, if someone breaks into your home while you are there, you are given the assumption that they have both the means and intent to harm you. This gives you the right to use deadly force against them legally.

my apologies, my statement was concerning new york state. we have a very liberal legislation. i think all states should adopt the "make my day" law. i think it will actually cause a decrease in crime rate
 
I wouldn't say you're lucky. The punks would have probably tripped over something and killed themselves before they got out the door. Still, they could have broken something in the process.

I never understood why getting a CCW is so important. How long does it take you to draw your weapon, load it, take the safety off, aim, and fire? Probably longer than someone will just stand there. =/


Training is everything. It's very possible.

I could talk about my state, MA, but I'd get the thread closed so I will not. I'll just leave you with the following quote which sums up my position:

"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
 
Thats just because you were dealing with idiots...

There are those that do this for a living and sneak in without anybody knowing till its too late, and than there are those who have been been found guilty of breaking in violently and just offing whoever lived there with their guns and casing the place...

either way, you were lucky you were dealing with inexperienced theives. You wouldn't have seen a real one coming, neither would your neighbors.
 
Just curious, do you have your guns in a quality safe? They give you a lot of peace of mind.

I keep most of my collection in my 50-gun safe, which is lag bolted to a concrete floor in a corner. It won't stop a pro, but it will keep the smash and grab crooks from getting anything.

My CCW of course is kept with me, and I have a bedside gun that is in a small touchpad-keyed security container.
 
If an intruder's in your house, you don't have to think before shooting.


:eek:

ummmm you should make sure it's not your buddy setting up your suprise birthday party....or some 13 year old being a dumb kid....or some other sort of unlikely event...

i'm very anti hand gun...but i don't have any sympathy for people that come into your home...they should expect to get shot dead...

but just make sure it's not your buddy from 5 states over..that your mom with the extra key let in...
 
Kael,

That story scares the crap out of me.

And not for the reason you might think.

Pit bulls.......guns......... don't tread on me attitude.........and now a concealed handgun on your person at all times.

That's a potent, toxic mix and it can't end well.

I don't what happened to you or who did it, but something or someone has taken your humanity.

I hope you find it and get it back, really.

Peace,
Fo'
 
Kael,

That story scares the crap out of me.

And not for the reason you might think.

Pit bulls.......guns......... don't tread on me attitude.........and now a concealed handgun on your person at all times.

That's a potent, toxic mix and it can't end well.

I don't what happened to you or who did it, but something or someone has taken your humanity.

I hope you find it and get it back, really.

Peace,
Fo'

+1
 
this is one reason i'm glad that i have a very large wooded area behind my house. if someone breaks in, they aint never gonna find the body.:D

ps-yes i mean this whole heartedly. proud member of the nra