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Aluminum Neck Club

Hi all. I just listed one of my Beans FS in the classifieds in case any of you might be interested. It's a good one.

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/1976-travis-bean-tb2000-restored.1641242/

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I don't have your condition but can't abide with thin especially front to back either. There isn't an example of any aluminum neck companies out there that seem to produce anything even remotely reasonable. They're all super thin.

I did an informal poll here on a neck thread and I can tell you that there are way more people that at the very least prefer some girth from front to back. Something that supports your hand. I believe that this is why you see so many people buy these neck and then just get rid of them. They've misread the market that might like a narrow nut width and have conflated it to "let's make it a pencil". Just stupid. Also as a note I don't have big hands, they're pretty average sized.
Then, what you need is an old Kramer "Lumie". The neck on my '78 450B is... not a "baseball bat" (I couldn't play it, if it was), but it isn't anywhere as skinny/thin as the neck on my Rick 4001, either. It's pretty similar to the "A-spec" neck on my '78 Fender P-Bass. Which is essentially a '78 Jazz Bass neck, with dot inlays instead of blocks - and a "Precision Bass" decal on the headstock... I have to warn you though; the reason aluminum necks now, are hollow - and thin- is because a solid, beefy one is a neck diving terror. Unless the bass's body is stupid, stupid heavy... Put a grippy strap on my 450B; hang it on your shoulder; and let go of it? It will try really, really hard to pull your shirt right over your head - and do it really quick, too. Ask me how I know... :whistle:
 
View attachment 5355616 I mounted my Baguley neck to a cheap lightweight squier body and the bass really came alive. It's a much better pairing than my custom black limba build I originally had it on.

With that said I'm still not fully bonding with it and I'm probably going to post the neck on the classifieds. If anyone is interested in it send me a pm

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Then, what you need is an old Kramer "Lumie". The neck on my '78 450B is... not a "baseball bat" (I couldn't play it, if it was), but it isn't anywhere as skinny/thin as the neck on my Rick 4001, either. It's pretty similar to the "A-spec" neck on my '78 Fender P-Bass. Which is essentially a '78 Jazz Bass neck, with dot inlays instead of blocks - and a "Precision Bass" decal on the headstock... I have to warn you though; the reason aluminum necks now, are hollow - and thin- is because a solid, beefy one is a neck diving terror. Unless the bass's body is stupid, stupid heavy... Put a grippy strap on my 450B; hang it on your shoulder; and let go of it? It will try really, really hard to pull your shirt right over your head - and do it really quick, too. Ask me how I know... :whistle:
My ‘76 450b and my ‘78 DMZ4000 have never had issues with neck dive. My ‘80 XKB2000 on the other hand was a brick and super neck heavy. The bodies on those are way too small compared to the massive neck
 
My ‘76 450b and my ‘78 DMZ4000 have never had issues with neck dive. My ‘80 XKB2000 on the other hand was a brick and super neck heavy. The bodies on those are way too small compared to the massive neck
Well, Kramer must have changed the body size/ wood (or woods), somewhere between yours and mine, then. Because mine dives like a spooked U-Boat. I own several basses that everybody labels as bad neck divers, every time they're mentioned. None of the ones I own come anywhere close to diving as badly as my 450B does...
Maybe it's just how I'm built. After all... Rick basses - which supposedly are horribly un- ergonomic, according to almost everybody around here? They fit me like a surgeon's rubber glove...:whistle:
 
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Well, Kramer must have changed the body size/ wood (or woods), somewhere between yours and mine, then. Because mine dives like a spooked U-Boat. I own several basses that everybody labels as bad neck divers, every time they're mentioned. None of the ones I own come anywhere close to diving as badly as my 450B does...
Maybe it's just how I'm built. After all... Rick basses - which supposedly are horribly un- ergonomic, according to almost everybody around here? They fit me like a surgeon's rubber glove...:whistle:
I imagine there was a lot of spotty QC in the Kramer workshop. My XKB had the fattest neck I’ve ever experienced on a bass, while the other two are much more manageable. Such is the way of hand making instruments I guess. I also heard that the necks were cast at Kramer instead of machined from a billet, maybe that also had a lot to do with neck profiles and weights
 
I posted a Travis Bean Designs short scale TB2000 a while back. I’ve since traded that to another member here.

Over the weekend a 1976 Travis Bean TB2000 bass was posted up for sale on craigslist in Omaha. For sale by original owner! Complete with original invoice and TB brochure. It wasn’t a steal, but it was priced well below current market pricing, especially considering it’s a painted one.

It’s in really good condition. The lower sides have some paint damage from reacting to the case foam. I was able to get most of it knocked down with fine sandpaper and polishing compound. It was used back in the day for sure, there are various small scratches on the body, and tarnishing on the neck, but it was clearly well cared for. For 47 years old it looks beautiful. It feels awesome, like your old favorite boots, it’s very comfortable. 11lbs of comfortable, lol. It sounds absolutely bananas!!!

The short scale TBD might be the best bass ever when it comes to ergonomics. The full sized vintage version has the tiniest amount of neck dive, and sounds considerably better in my opinion.

I might have a new favorite bass.

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I posted a Travis Bean Designs short scale TB2000 a while back. I’ve since traded that to another member here.

Over the weekend a 1976 Travis Bean TB2000 bass was posted up for sale on craigslist in Omaha. For sale by original owner! Complete with original invoice and TB brochure. It wasn’t a steal, but it was priced well below current market pricing, especially considering it’s a painted one.

It’s in really good condition. The lower sides have some paint damage from reacting to the case foam. I was able to get most of it knocked down with fine sandpaper and polishing compound. It was used back in the day for sure, there are various small scratches on the body, and tarnishing on the neck, but it was clearly well cared for. For 47 years old it looks beautiful. It feels awesome, like your old favorite boots, it’s very comfortable. 11lbs of comfortable, lol. It sounds absolutely bananas!!!

The short scale TBD might be the best bass ever when it comes to ergonomics. The full sized vintage version has the tiniest amount of neck dive, and sounds considerably better in my opinion.

I might have a new favorite bass.

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What a great score, congrats!

If you had time to measure, I would love to know the distance of the pickup positions from their centers to the nut on your bass. Aluminum aside, the TB2000 has a very uncommon pickup spacing that really shapes the sound. I’m giving some thought to carving up a Squier P and installing a couple of the Aero replica pickups in there, but I’m not sure if the correct spacing could be achieved or not. Would love to know!
 
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What a great score, congrats!

If you had time to measure, I would love to know the distance of the pickup positions from their centers to the nut on your bass. Aluminum aside, the TB2000 has a very uncommon pickup spacing that really shapes the sound. I’m giving some thought to carving up a Squier P and installing a couple of the Aero replica pickups in there, but I’m not sure if the correct spacing could be achieved or not. Would love to know!

Looks like center of nut to center of neck pickup (poles) is 24” and to center of bridge pickup is 29-1/4”. Also, I believe the TB2000 scale is slightly shorter than a P, I think it’s 33-1/4”.
 
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What a great score, congrats!

If you had time to measure, I would love to know the distance of the pickup positions from their centers to the nut on your bass. Aluminum aside, the TB2000 has a very uncommon pickup spacing that really shapes the sound. I’m giving some thought to carving up a Squier P and installing a couple of the Aero replica pickups in there, but I’m not sure if the correct spacing could be achieved or not. Would love to know!
Those Aeros are gonna be a pain to install on a “normal” body. They thread through the back of the instrument body into the pickup. I was going to do the same thing with the single Aero TB pickup I have in my parts bin but changed my mind lol
 
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