Not exactly sure it falls into ambient or more just “chilled out rock”... but opeths damnation album has quite a lot of ambient type techniques... pads/reverbs and mood inspired guitar / bass solos/techniques. Forgot just how good this album is. Loads of nice baselines / fills too.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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Here here!!! Great news. It's definitely the less sexy part about what we do, but all the magic behind the scenes so you can make magic happen is such a chore. I, too, spent the weekend working on my setup programming an ES-8 and dang, that device is a beast of amazing functionality! It really opened doors for my ability to sculpt deliberate sounds.
Ah man, I loves me some Opeth. I have known some people who won't listen to them because they don't like death metal (it's what kept me away at first), and I have to explain to them that Opeth is really a heavy prog rock band and the Ackerfeld is an amazing singer and songwriter who only does the cookie monster voice on their 20 year old stuff. I saw them live about a year or two ago. Just a great band, several of their albums are masterful pieces of work.
Much appreciated. Having subscribers makes me feel obligated to record something new periodically and try to maintain some sort of standard.
Yeah some of later stuff is weird in that they go more towards 70’s style progressive rock... if I’m in the mood for slow chilled rock, Manson’s eat me drink me and damnation album are the best for that... each note they use as carefully planned and some kind of “epic ness”to it
I sat down to work on MIDI stuff with ZOIA tonight. I was able to get a few things sorted, Including making a simple controller for my NYX. My next plan is to run the NYX into the ZOIA and have effects running while I also have a control page.
Speaking of the NYX, I just realized how to control a few parameters I had never considered. Lesson 1 - Always RTFM. Lesson 2 - Always RTFM again. I figured out how the MIDI mod wheel and pitch bend controls work. I was able to draw envelopes in Ableton and have the NYX filter follow them. I also got the Push 2 touch strip to control the Mod parameters, including filter sweeps. Then, while plugging things in and experimenting, I realized I could modulate Oscillator 1's frequency with Oscillator 2 and get some interesting metallic harmonics happening. Not quite 0-Cost sounding, but certainly not like anything I've been using the NYX for.
Now, the plan just might be to set up the Medusa as a drone machine going into one input on ZOIA, while using the ZOIA to MIDI control the NYX, and run the NYX's audio back into the ZOIA's other input.
Speaking of the NYX, I just realized how to control a few parameters I had never considered. Lesson 1 - Always RTFM. Lesson 2 - Always RTFM again. I figured out how the MIDI mod wheel and pitch bend controls work. I was able to draw envelopes in Ableton and have the NYX filter follow them. I also got the Push 2 touch strip to control the Mod parameters, including filter sweeps. Then, while plugging things in and experimenting, I realized I could modulate Oscillator 1's frequency with Oscillator 2 and get some interesting metallic harmonics happening. Not quite 0-Cost sounding, but certainly not like anything I've been using the NYX for.
Now, the plan just might be to set up the Medusa as a drone machine going into one input on ZOIA, while using the ZOIA to MIDI control the NYX, and run the NYX's audio back into the ZOIA's other input.
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Seems like that Zoia makes folks dream up lots of crazy scenarios! Still on my ‘list.’
I did add a cheap, basic but nice 8 voice synth to my rig. Ordered an Audiothingies MicroMonsta today
I gotta say the Zoia is full of potential but it’s a time suck to learn. There’s something to be said for an effects box that’s already got the sounds you want in it. As much as I like the idea of it, it has yet to pay off in terms of exciting me to patch things. I think I need to go check the patches other folks have made and posted.
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Good idea. I’ve been putting it off because I just don’t need the learning curve at the moment!
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I was gonna say in the Zoia thread that seems like it takes a good amount of time before you can get it as a usable part of your rig since I hear so few clips beyond experimentations (mostly posted by you, @monsterthompson ).
It’s a real ear opener. You think “wouldn’t it be cool if...”
Then as you patch it, you realize how much time goes into sound design. Folks who are pro at that probably don’t have as much of an issue creating. However, more casual users can find themselves in over their heads. It’s one thing to connect all the modules and make an effect pass audio. It’s another thing to develop one that sounds good. I’m sure it’s not that hard to connect a good patch, but it’s gonna take some time to envision all the elements needed and how to link them.
That is primarily my problem with most digital pedals with menus / complicated synths... kind of gets to a point where there are so many variables that can go into it and others can make it sound good but I just don’t have the time / patience to get my head around it
aaaaaaand now I've got the LFO in Reaktor Blocks controlling the NYX!
I also figured out what I was probably doing wrong earlier with the quantizing module. I found the "Level" control in the Quantizer block, which helps limit how strong the LFO signal is when it hits the NYX.
Now, I wonder what other things I can modulate... Perhaps the Empress Echo and Reverb will respond to the LFO.
I'm sure the ZOIA will, if I can decide what to modulate.
Now for some bass playing...
I also figured out what I was probably doing wrong earlier with the quantizing module. I found the "Level" control in the Quantizer block, which helps limit how strong the LFO signal is when it hits the NYX.
Now, I wonder what other things I can modulate... Perhaps the Empress Echo and Reverb will respond to the LFO.
I'm sure the ZOIA will, if I can decide what to modulate.
Now for some bass playing...
