I have an EQ200. It took care of the tone suck, I wouldn't go without it, at this point. I also have a SA Aftershock. It does the trick - keep in mind, I rarely use dirt, usually with an ebow, so I'm not big on having that perfect dirt sound.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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Recently finished this track for a video game taking place in an post-apocalyptical setting called 'Escape to the Worlds of Arsinoé' Where a human expedition is visiting a ravaged earth for an archaeological survey 300 000 years from now, a young child who is hiding out in the world's cave system attempts to escape while hiding in one of the ships with his unpredictable toddler sister as a stowaway.
for the past couple of weeks i feel like i've been beating my head against the wall. i got this idea last night and knocked it out fairly quickly. i like it pretty loud in my studio.
two doubled-up hydrasynth patches (one is the microtonal morass; one is the big chord) and four patches in an ipad app called sector. (first time i've used an ipad app for recording in a long time.)
pretty ambient, i think.
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I've been listening to a lot of Ligeti lately, so this is right in school. Like.
Yeah, I thought, this needs to suck more, so instead of getting a bitcrusher I got the eq. Smartypants.
Same here.
I didn’t get it either.
Lost in text translation i guess.
How does an eq remedy tone suck?!?
Unsuck knob?!?!?
Okay, I am obtuse. Perhaps you meant what it seemed like you meant (meaning, it 'helped' it sound better). In that case, hell yeah! Restored a lot of frequency.
I am so worked to death right now, the brain hasn't been firing like it should.
I am so worked to death right now, the brain hasn't been firing like it should.
So, I've decided to make a serious effort at loop-based ambient arrangements.
I did do some bass looping with my Octatrack about one and a half years ago, but then I sold it to buy an electric upright.
Now I'm preparing a new setup which will contain both guitar and bass. The gear I have so far – apart from the actual instruments:
Black Sheep looper (TC Ditto clone more or less)
Boss RC-50 looper
Eventide H9 Max
EBS Retracer Delay
Meris Enzo guitar synth/delay/octaver/filter
EBS Stanley Clarke Wha/volume
EBS Microbass II
EHX Freeze (will arrive Monday)
I will get other pedals as I go along, I'm looking at the OBNE Dark Star, EQD Afterneath and Cooper Arcades and Outward.
Anyway, I think what I have already will go a long way.
I need some advice about the RC-50. Can it be used with two instruments, one in each input? Or is it better to line the Microbass II XLR output into the XLR mic input on the RC-50, with phantom power turned off? I know they can't be recorded on separate tracks at the same time, but I'll be playing alone anyway.
Any other advice on how best to utilize the RC-50 is greatly appreciated. I'm reading the manual right now.
I did do some bass looping with my Octatrack about one and a half years ago, but then I sold it to buy an electric upright.
Now I'm preparing a new setup which will contain both guitar and bass. The gear I have so far – apart from the actual instruments:
Black Sheep looper (TC Ditto clone more or less)
Boss RC-50 looper
Eventide H9 Max
EBS Retracer Delay
Meris Enzo guitar synth/delay/octaver/filter
EBS Stanley Clarke Wha/volume
EBS Microbass II
EHX Freeze (will arrive Monday)
I will get other pedals as I go along, I'm looking at the OBNE Dark Star, EQD Afterneath and Cooper Arcades and Outward.
Anyway, I think what I have already will go a long way.
I need some advice about the RC-50. Can it be used with two instruments, one in each input? Or is it better to line the Microbass II XLR output into the XLR mic input on the RC-50, with phantom power turned off? I know they can't be recorded on separate tracks at the same time, but I'll be playing alone anyway.
Any other advice on how best to utilize the RC-50 is greatly appreciated. I'm reading the manual right now.
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Maybe this would be handy, and then connect it to the mono input of the RC-50 (I would like to keep the phantom powered XLR input free for my SM58 mic):
Old Blood Noise Utility 2: ABY
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@DanielW
Ok, I’m confused, too much info and gear & patching at the same time.
We got a bass, a guitar, a mic, a splitter, lot’s of pedals.....a second looper.......
What pedal goes where?????
Effects with Mic??? Impedance matching issues??
(The 48v phantom power will in no way damage the sm58 btw if you turn it on my accident.)
What exactly are you trying too achieve with all this equipment?
Maybe ask individual specific questions so we can all best help you with your project.
Welcome buddy.
Ok, I’m confused, too much info and gear & patching at the same time.
We got a bass, a guitar, a mic, a splitter, lot’s of pedals.....a second looper.......
What pedal goes where?????
Effects with Mic??? Impedance matching issues??
(The 48v phantom power will in no way damage the sm58 btw if you turn it on my accident.)
What exactly are you trying too achieve with all this equipment?
Maybe ask individual specific questions so we can all best help you with your project.
Welcome buddy.
I was thinking one setup might be
Bass –> Microbass II with Retracer in its FX loop –> one input
Guitar –> Wha –> Enzo –> H9 –> other input
Probably should have its own delay but I don't have one for now. For rhythmic textures like effected maracas or weird drumming on bongos et c.
I know too little about that subject to answer.
Oh, I thought it needed 48v. My bad. I normally use it with a Mackie 402 VLZ which has phantom power, but maybe that's simply irrelevant for this mic.
I'll add onto what ugly is saying...
looping is a very personal thing and everyone has different features that they need/use based on what vision they are trying to execute upon. I am a solo looper and I use 2 loopers w a flip flop in between so that I can loop, then play w the loop into a different looper, switch the order, blank out the first and build and tear down.\
I also have a table top setup where I use some loopers...that one has a blooper. Blooper in general is an instrument so looping with a device like that is way different. If you are just looking for basic record/play/overdub, I'd recommend having everything into a mixing board and then the looper afterwards or in the effects send. I'm experimenting with this right now as I want to be able to include vocals and synths in my loops, not just what is running through my main rig.
looping is a very personal thing and everyone has different features that they need/use based on what vision they are trying to execute upon. I am a solo looper and I use 2 loopers w a flip flop in between so that I can loop, then play w the loop into a different looper, switch the order, blank out the first and build and tear down.\
I also have a table top setup where I use some loopers...that one has a blooper. Blooper in general is an instrument so looping with a device like that is way different. If you are just looking for basic record/play/overdub, I'd recommend having everything into a mixing board and then the looper afterwards or in the effects send. I'm experimenting with this right now as I want to be able to include vocals and synths in my loops, not just what is running through my main rig.
Interesting concept. I would definitely not turn down an offer for a used Blooper if one turned up and the price was right. It sure is an intriguing device. For now, I'll try to master the RC-50.
Finding a Blooper new is hard enough so used prices are towing the line on new prices if not more these days.
Ok, issue #1:
Input levels:
- Does the RC-50 have individual gains or volume levels for every input?
Some kind of internal mixer?
Others will surely chime in with some help also.
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Welcome Daniel. Can I make a suggestion? I don’t know your level of comfort and practice with looping or the other pedals you mention, but maybe start smaller? The Boss is a great pedal and will get you a long way but you do have to learn it. That and the ditto copy get you two loopers, and then choose one or two other pedals inbetween or before one or the other. In the effects loop of my amp at the moment, I have a Blooper, a H9Max, and a Ditto X2, all up on a table (with a pedal on the floor to turn the Blooper record on). Just those 3 things can keep my attention for hours and allow for endless variation. If you are new to all this, keep it simple so you can focus on the tools you have, and then build up from there.
OTOH, if you mastered the Octatrack before you sold it, feel free to make your setup as complicated as you want to start out.
OTOH, if you mastered the Octatrack before you sold it, feel free to make your setup as complicated as you want to start out.
