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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

You gotta have offspring somewhere dude?!?!?

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I probably told this one before...
I was once in a jury selection pool, and the court instructed everyone to individually stand and indicate a few specific details like job, marriage status, and number of kids. When it got to be my turn I stood and said all the stuff, finishing with "and I have no kids... that I know of." The joke landed, and nearly everyone in the court chuckled, including the judge, the lawyers, and the defendant.
 
I probably told this one before...
I was once in a jury selection pool, and the court instructed everyone to individually stand and indicate a few specific details like job, marriage status, and number of kids. When it got to be my turn I stood and said all the stuff, finishing with "and I have no kids... that I know of." The joke landed, and nearly everyone in the court chuckled, including the judge, the lawyers, and the defendant.

did you get impaneled?

two different jury pool stories.

right after i got excused the person after me said her husband was the general consul for scientology. all of a sudden i wanted to be on that jury.

the other one was i got excused and the woman next me was also excused cause she had to go on a promo tour for one of the “twilight” movies. (i guess was one of the second-level characters. i looked her up. she seemed to be doing some interesting stuff outside of that gig. guess she used the money to do her own projects.)

only in l.a. i guess.
 
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did you get impaneled?

two different jury pool stories.

right after i got excused the person after me said her husband was the general consul for scientology. all of a sudden i wanted to be on that jury.

the other one was i got excused and the woman next me was also excused cause she had to go on a promo tour for one of the “twilight” movies. (i guess was one of the second-level characters. i looked her up. she seemed to be doing some interesting stuff outside of that gig. guess she used the money to do her own projects.)

only in l.a. i guess.

I once ended up in a jury pool with my high school chemistry teacher, about 10-15 years after I was in his class. It’s a small world.

I did end up on a jury for a month about 10-12 years ago. I’m still friends with a few of the jurors. We bonded over the experience, and got along pretty well.
 
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dunno. i’m mindful of your complaints about some of the noise artists you’ve been on shows with.

i’ve seen/heard folks like that and they strike me as posers.

ymmv, etc.
In those particular cases, I think I was frustrated by any sort of sense of the basics of interacting with others, as well as any lack of apparent musical technique/knowledge. Nobody was showing up dressed like Robert Smith from The Cure. That said, ymmv, I see posing as very much a visual thing that accompanies a certain attitude, whereas some may see posing as a Dunning-Kruger effect for musicians, in that they overestimate their talent and abilities.
 
i was thinking about this on my morning walk (pandemic living . . . ):

salvidor dali: poser, great artist or both?

he certainly played up and developed a persona (a pose, if you will), but was an incredible technical artist.

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another thing i wonder is if the visual thing is an expression of the "otherness" one feels in a society. it's not generally my way, but i can identify the ways that i dress as being a signifier of being outside the norm. it def makes sense in the youth culture thing . . .

and there's a tradition in other societies of musicians being shamanistic, so i wonder if that somehow keys in to this sort of thing as an archetype.
 
i was thinking about this on my morning walk (pandemic living . . . ):

salvidor dali: poser, great artist or both?

he certainly played up and developed a persona (a pose, if you will), but was an incredible technical artist.

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musings:

another thing i wonder is if the visual thing is an expression of the "otherness" one feels in a society. it's not generally my way, but i can identify the ways that i dress as being a signifier of being outside the norm. it def makes sense in the youth culture thing . . .

and there's a tradition in other societies of musicians being shamanistic, so i wonder if that somehow keys in to this sort of thing as an archetype.
All worthy points of pondering. I have a strange take on it (regarding the image). It probably stems from my youth, of course. I've always, when thinking about individuality, put an emphasis on ideas. I'm much more inclined to be impressed by the originality of one's ideas than their visual presentation. To put it simple,as I used to think when I was a teen... it doesn't take much to dye one's hair a weird color and wear all the latest Hot Topic goth crap (does Hot Topic even exist anymore?)- just like all of the other alternakids. It takes a lot to come up with an original concept. There's a world of difference between Jack Kerouac and Marilyn Manson. It doesn't take much to play dress up. It takes a lot to create something new, original, and thought-provoking (said with full realization that not everyone needs what they say to be any of those things - I'm just less interested in those who don't).

That said, they're all means of expression, I'm not trying to diminish that in any way. Just my own thoughts about what I value and what I don't. A lot of the image stuff to me just seems superficial, and often takes the place of actual substance, not enhances it (as it did with, I think Dali).
 
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Phil Upchurch is another great bassist most famous as a non-bassist. He is a contemporary if Wilton Felder too.

All worthy points of pondering. I have a strange take on it (regarding the image). It probably stems from my youth, of course. I've always, when thinking about individuality, put an emphasis on ideas. I'm much more inclined to be impressed by the originality of one's ideas than their visual presentation. To put it simple,as I used to think when I was a teen... it doesn't take much to dye one's hair a weird color and wear all the latest Hot Topic goth crap (does Hot Topic even exist anymore?)- just like all of the other alternakids. It takes a lot to come up with an original concept. There's a world of difference between Jack Kerouac and Marilyn Manson. It doesn't take much to play dress up. It takes a lot to create something new, original, and thought-provoking (said with full realization that not everyone needs what they say to be any of those things - I'm just less interested in those who don't).

That said, they're all means of expression, I'm not trying to diminish that in any way. Just my own thoughts about what I value and what I don't. A lot of the image stuff to me just seems superficial, and often takes the place of actual substance, not enhances it (as it did with, I think Dali).

yep. more interested in ideas here as well. i've never loved the glam, new romantic or hair metal fashion thing. seems like it ties into some english foppery that i don't get. i did like some of the music though. (i have friends that are hugely into fashion, which i don't get at all—i had too much of an american calvinist upbringing, i guess.)

kerouac had his own *persona*, perhaps? i feel like burroughs definitely did. ginsburg maybe.

marilyn manson is (imo) the perfect example of style over substance . . . though maybe i don't appreciate what that substance is. i didn't really like the grand guignol aspect of alice cooper either . . . but it seems to be a popular thing (considering the the french coined grand guignol a long time ago).

then you have hendrix and prince, who dressed up and had some serious substance.

dying one's hair, wearing it long (in my day it was a *thing*—many fights and battles over that!) may help define who you are and who you're not—usually that you're not your parents or older society, which i consider normal and necessary to a certain degree.

glad you like (?) the dali example. man had incredible technique, but often seemed more interested in his image—both in life and on canvas. yet he did some incredible art as well. the surrealists were outlandish, arguably trying to challenge society to examine itself and consider what was important.