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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Ergonomically they're mostly great, but the reach to the first fret actually felt further away than on my Dingwall. The fretboard is obviously a pretty flat radius, which I liked but obviously some would disagree (I felt like the fretboards were comparable width and radius to the 5 and 6 string BTBs, but I've only screwed around with a couple BTBs in stores and haven't compared the actual measurements so take that for what it's worth).

The Nordstrand pickups are awesome. It seemed like the full frequency range was on tap, which I personally prefer. Not much more to say about them other than I guess in a perfect world I'd position them differently but that's just because of my own idiosyncrasies (for example, my pickup arrangement on my Dingwall).

Though I mostly play active basses I leave all the EQ settings at noon. That said, the flexibility of the mid sweep in the preamps the EHBs have is incredible. The range of tones available from just what's on the bass is awesome.

They are LIGHT. Like, stupid light. If someone places a lot of importance on weight, the EHBs should be at the top of the list of basses to consider. Personally, though, I think I prefer solid body basses. Now, that could just be pure coincidence but over time the Dingwall has become my go-to, though I also love the SRMS bass I have (and the one I used to have) which is solid body. I'm not going to say that solid body is better than chambered, because I think my experience is purely anecdotal.

Though I think the EHBs look awesome (especially the TSF which they mysteriously don't make anymore), the finish felt like it might not stand up to much abuse. I don't slap, but I saw an EHB for sale here that had the finish worn completely through where the guy put his finger when popping (I presume). Considering these haven't even been made for all that long, I wouldn't trust the finish to go the distance.

I think the headless system Ibanez uses is great. It can use normal strings and it's easy to change strings (though if you wanted to use some absurd bridge cable like bigger than a .170 it might not fit...though I didn't try that to confirm). I also like the look of them, though I understand plenty of people can't stand the look of headless. It's also easy to make really fine adjustments to the tuning, which is nice. Never having to worry about it getting bumped out of tune is also nice.

Overall I think they're great basses, with the weight, pickups, and the headless design itself being the stars of the show.
 
Thanks. Could you say more about solid body? I thought the EHBs were solid body, or do you mean chambered?
The EHBs are chambered. I guess saying they're not solid body is probably misleading because it's not like they're hollow bodies. It just felt to me like they were so chambered that I'd distinguish them from even a solid body that has a modest amount of chambering.
 
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Interesting. Is it a difference in how the instruments feels or sounds? I don't have two of the same instrument, but I can't say I can really tell which part of my, e.g., Lull's tone is the chambering, or how my G&L would sound different if it were chambered.
How it feels, yes. How it sounds, that I don't know. I'm leery of making such judgments based solely on anecdotal experience.
 
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26100842[/URL], member: 190717"]As I slept last night, as always on Sat nights, I streamed the Star's End radio show at a low volume. Around 4:30 AM I woke up for some reason and got up to walk around before plopping back into bed for sleep round 2, and just as I lay down this awesome classic track came on and creeped me out a bit. In a good way.


Was going to buy the digital copy of Mirage because of your post. (really dig the vibe of that one)
Doesn’t exist in digital format, legally……(and no I dont do iTunes or Google Music, its bandcamp or directly to band only)
I would have put up some $$ for that, so many old records have the same issue.

:banghead:
 
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Was going to buy the digital copy of Mirage because of your post. (really dig the vibe of that one)
Doesn’t exist in digital format, legally……(and no I dont do iTunes or Google Music, its bandcamp or directly to band only)
I would have put up some $$ for that, so many old records have the same issue.

:banghead:

Just checked Amazon US, they have it on CD and some used vinyl, but no digital I guess. Weird. I put the CD on my wishlist though.
 
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I’m trying to jam along with my modular rig using my Miezo and a midi sync looper. It’s funny how hard it is to coordinate my brain to manage all the actions. It’s also good feedback to hear what I played loop back in time and realize how it sounds. I am over playing and rushing. Hopefully some of these jams will help even me out.
 
I’m trying to jam along with my modular rig using my Miezo and a midi sync looper. It’s funny how hard it is to coordinate my brain to manage all the actions. It’s also good feedback to hear what I played loop back in time and realize how it sounds. I am over playing and rushing. Hopefully some of these jams will help even me out.

Practice makes perferckt

I’m all set up to start attempting to sequence my eurorack with the M8. If it works, great. If not, I’ll go back to the Octatrack. I think the Keystep Pro is going up for sale, mostly because I kinda hate it :)
 
Ha. I borrowed a BSP for about a week before reaffirming my hatred for most things Arturia.

The funny thing is the Keystep Pro is such an ideal concept, poorly executed. Or just not completely executed.
Oxi One is still the hardware sequencer I’m most hopeful for outside of eurorack, but who knows?
 
I use a Keystep (regular, not a Pro) and find it to be pretty useful. Also my Microbrute was my first synth and still a major part of my setup. I guess I am okay slumming it with Arturia.

I know they have plenty of gear that works quite well for others. I just don't click with it. I certainly wouldn't say you are slumming it.
 
I use a Keystep (regular, not a Pro) and find it to be pretty useful. Also my Microbrute was my first synth and still a major part of my setup. I guess I am okay slumming it with Arturia.

The regular Keystep is awesome. Super affordable and streamlined to do a few limited tasks really well. It’s very basic of course, but makes no pretense to be anything it isn’t. I have one and use it all the time for different things. The Keystep Pro (like many many Arturia products, sadly) is a genius concept, but not a fully baked one. It does well with midi and has tons of cv capability. Its $399. If it did what it seems to promise, that price would be a steal. For fairly basic sequencing of midi, cv or both it works pretty good and I’ve gotten usable tracks done with it. But for me, it just doesn’t go far enough to justify its desk space. I really wish it did!
 
The regular Keystep is awesome. Super affordable and streamlined to do a few limited tasks really well. It’s very basic of course, but makes no pretense to be anything it isn’t. I have one and use it all the time for different things. The Keystep Pro (like many many Arturia products, sadly) is a genius concept, but not a fully baked one. It does well with midi and has tons of cv capability. Its $399. If it did what it seems to promise, that price would be a steal. For fairly basic sequencing of midi, cv or both it works pretty good and I’ve gotten usable tracks done with it. But for me, it just doesn’t go far enough to justify its desk space. I really wish it did!

To be honest I don't really understand all that extra stuff the Pro is supposed to do so the regular KS works out for me. The main reason I bought it was because I wanted an external keyboard that would have enough keys and still be compact enough to fit on my homemade console, and its built-in sequencer function. The arpeggiator turned out to be something I didn't know I needed and now cannot live without, and the fact that it does stuff with both MIDI and CV easily makes it indispensable at this point. One of those pieces of gear that turned out to be way more useful than I thought it would.
 
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Also, there’s a very cool upcoming doc on female pioneers of electronic music from the 1920’s-1980’s called Sisters With Transistors

https://www.soundonsound.com/people/sisters-transistors-podcast

that was making the film festival circuit last year. It was available here for like 5 minutes on a service I didn’t have, so I’m glad it’s finally coming out. Lots of my friends in other countries were like “you have to see it.”