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Anyone Else Disenchanted with Bass Player Magazine?

Hello

Just wondering, is anyone else disenchanted with Bass Player Magazine over the past months?

It seems that around the time the magazine got wider in size, it got narrower in scope.

I used to always find a few things each month that interested me, but lately not so much.

Is it just me? Anybody else feeling it? Are there other Bass magazines that you prefer?

Comment as you see fit.

BassHappy
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Music "journalism", in general, is pretty disappointing. I really loved BPM years ago, but I hardly ever buy a copy these days. I've been a long-time subscriber to Guitar Player also and I think their standards have plunged pretty far in recent years, too.

Interestingly, I see music magazines from the UK from time to time on local news stands and the writing and coverage is much, much better. Okay, it's not like reading the Economist or anything, it's still a music rag, but it's put together to a much higher standard. I try to grab those when I see them.

I wish I could remember who it was who described music journalism as "People who can't write interviewing people who can't speak for people who can't read."
 
I subscribe electronically.

You are right, it is getting very weak.

Bowlus' Bass Gear Mag is great and and it is full of detailed info (sometimes too much for me, but that is cool).

I really like Bass Guitar Magazine (Britain). I also subscribe electronically and it blows Bass Player away IMO. Waaayyyyy more articles on theory and technique and just a much better mag IMO. As an example, they have a 2-3 page column specific to bass chords... Every month.:eek:
 
Lots of threads on this over the years. Yes, the era of a monthly magazine if pretty much over. I would guess their readership is getting smaller and smaller and older and older, resulting in less money, and hence less to work with.

I still get the magazine. It takes me about 5 minutes to go through:p Hard to compete with the immediate reviews and info on Talkbass. I view my subscription cost as kind of 'charity' at this point as part of the bass community helping keep this classic mag afloat, even though it is pretty much irrelevant at this point. IMO.
 
BP has become crap in the past few years. I started reading it years ago because it was the only US bass magazine. Then I found the UK's Bass Guitar Magazine and I realized how bad BP really is.

I really got tired of seeing the same three bass players on the cover of BP, with Geddy Lee being the #1 cover boy. They hardly ever write about female bass players. They never cover any players who aren't American. And they hardly ever write about any players from any genre other than Rock, Metal and R&B.

Their equipment reviews seem to be tied to the ads. That's probably why you never see a less than stellar review for a piece of equipment. Everything they review is great and you should run out and buy it right now.

The only good thing about BP are the transcriptions, which the UK magazines don't seem to do.

So to answer your question: yes, I've become disenchanted with BP.
 
It seems to me that BP has become super soft on their reviews. When you handle that much gear, you can tell when a POS rolls into your office. However, if said POS belongs to a advertiser of yours, it gets a standing ovation. (sigh)
 
It seems to me that BP has become super soft on their reviews. When you handle that much gear, you can tell when a POS rolls into your office. However, if said POS belongs to a advertiser of yours, it gets a standing ovation. (sigh)

That is what makes TB reviews better IMO than any magazine review. Combine that with the immediacy of the TB info, if I was Bass Player, I'd just can the gear reviews. Always a month or two (or more) behind TB, and I've yet to get any additional info that I didn't now already about gear by just perusing a given thread on TB.
 
That is what makes TB reviews better IMO than any magazine review. Combine that with the immediacy of the TB info, if I was Bass Player, I'd just can the gear reviews. Always a month or two (or more) behind TB, and I've yet to get any additional info that I didn't now already about gear by just perusing a given thread on TB.

Plus, TB is interactive. I'd rather spend my money here for a subscription.
 
I've gotten the last issue of my current subscription, and I don't think I'm going to resubscribe. I originally subscribed when Ed Friedland stopped making videos to work on the magazine. It seems to me, however, that his input for each issue has been getting smaller.

I just glanced at the BPM website and noticed that most of the articles that interest me, like the interview with the Acoustic guys, are posted on the website. There's pretty much no reason for me to pay for it.
 
Whatever happened to the 'meet the builder' section where they profiled a different luthier each month? That was one of the best things they ever did.

I really liked it. The guy who wrote the column left the magazine, and had some sort of "ownership" to the column. The Roscoe feature was the very last one (and featured my photography!).

BP has become crap in the past few years. I started reading it years ago because it was the only US bass magazine. Then I found the UK's Bass Guitar Magazine and I realized how bad BP really is.

This. Anyone who thinks the era of the monthly magazine is over hasn't seen this mag. In general, actually, the Brits are kicking American tail in the magazine department.
 
Wow, LOL

I guess it isn't just me!

Sorry, for posting this in the wrong place originally - moderators, thanks for re-orienting this. Also, sorry this is a re-hash - I never ran across any of the previous threads for some reason.

Really enlightening to read your posts. I agree that the monthly boutique bass feature was killer! The last article that actually stuck with me was the Bill Laswell interview.

Best,

BassHappy
 
It seems to me that BP has become super soft on their reviews. When you handle that much gear, you can tell when a POS rolls into your office. However, if said POS belongs to a advertiser of yours, it gets a standing ovation. (sigh)

Having worked as an art director for a magazine in the hunting market recently (just switched jobs), I can tell you that this is true. And generally speaking, you cover the people who cover your bills. Grampa called it "dancing with the one what brung ya" …

That being said, what you don't see, is when a POS enters the office, and asks for a review. We always tried to give the real whiz-bangers some play if we were sent a product that just blew us away, advertising or not, but for the ones that sent us a POS, we returned them with a list of constructive suggestions for improvement.

The other thing to consider is that magazines have been the focus of a broadening of technology, and a narrowing of demographic numbers. A niche pub like BP doesn't have a 3 million circ like "Car & Driver" or "Cycle World" might. They have a few people actually on staff, and share production coordination folks with the other magazines in the publishing group.

The two main books I art directed, Gun Dog and Wildfowl, had different editors, but shared associate editors and art directors. We had a staff photog who was insanely busy day in and day out, usually kept busy by our sister publications Guns & Ammo and Petersen's Hunting. Regular departments were written by writers that worked remotely. So when you see a lot of names on the masthead, know that about a 10th of them actually work for the publishing group, and actually go to the office.

Plus, we produced (when I left) a couple of SIPs a year, an annual gear guide, calendars, promotional and media-guide materials, etc. And we were beginning to provide online content outside of the iPad versions of the magazine. All out of one office. By essentially 3 people.

I art directed 19 publications per year averaging about 128+ pages each, 3 media guides, 3 calendars, all of their associated promotional materials. That's a lot of work that used to be shared by 4-5 different people. An art director, a senior designer and a couple of junior designers.

And with the advent of iPad publications, and the availability of incorporated rich content, that workload is only getting bigger.

All in all, considering what I know of the magazine industry (and I know it pretty well), I'd say they're providing a pretty good product.

And FWIW, I think the artist (and musical style) coverage is fairly diverse and unique. A flip through the covers on my music desk show Adam Blackstone, Wolfgang Van Halen, Bryan Beller, Steve Harris, Steve Bailey, Darryl Jenifer, Mike Dirnt, the Acoustic 360, Geddy Lee, Phil Lynott, Alex Webster, Esperanza Spalding, Hutch Hutchison and Gary Willis.

Yes, I have a stack there at all times, next to my charts, lyric books, chord and theory books, etc. Makes it pretty handy.
 
I subscribe electronically.

You are right, it is getting very weak.

Bowlus' Bass Gear Mag is great and and it is full of detailed info (sometimes too much for me, but that is cool).

I really like Bass Guitar Magazine (Britain). I also subscribe electronically and it blows Bass Player away IMO. Waaayyyyy more articles on theory and technique and just a much better mag IMO. As an example, they have a 2-3 page column specific to bass chords... Every month.:eek:

Highly agree! ^^^

Dropped my sub with Bass Player Mag. I used to like it but it's become lame. Mostly due to the poor economy. Not totally their fault.
 
This. Anyone who thinks the era of the monthly magazine is over hasn't seen this mag. In general, actually, the Brits are kicking American tail in the magazine department.

That mag is definitely 'better' than BP in many ways, but that is kind of a different topic. It isn't that there aren't good magazines out there in most of the categories, but rather that (obviously), the monthly or quarterly print delivered to the door format seems to be rapidly going away in general. Things move too quickly at this point, and the bass magazines are double hit by a decline in the entire music category (i.e., kids taking music lessons or playing in old time 'guitar/bass/drums' sort of bands is also 'going away' to some extent).

There are exceptions of course, but I wouldn't think that anything BP could do would really change this. IMO though. It would not surprise me if the median age of a BP reader is in the late 40's, early 50's range. That is the start of a slow death.
 
Finally! Someone has taken notice about BP magazine, I was totally thinking I was alone, I always bought my issue every month at six bucks a pop. And it took a minute until I saw that nothing was of interest. Every issue I got nothing stood out. Just to mention one of my all time greats, when he was among us helping with holding down the bottom end. From the time he passed, there was never a credit issue after his death, others I've seen and have old issues of. But not of the late and to me one of the greats that paved a way with skills in his short but super life. ( The great Wayman Tisdale). So now I'm keeping an extra six bucks in my pocket every month now, and saving to go towards my bass needs. To you the thread poster. Super Post!