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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...
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Hello Gents. I am a newb to Thunderchild world. I have been enjoying the hell out of my 112 4 ohm that I got from Mystic Michael three months ago. I use it with my semi-loud rock band and it works great, NO problem keeping up with the drummer with a tone as clear as a bell. We are going into the gigging phase and I am wondering if this will be enough for live shows or if I need two. Two would be an issue as my current amp (GK1001 RB) is not rated for 2 ohms. Would you guys think I would be better served by getting a TC212 or swapping my 4 Ohmer for an 8 Ohm and then buying another 8 Ohm and stacking them? The 212 really appeals and I am sure it sounds unreal, and it will still fit in the trunk of my car OK. What has your guy's experience been?
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I can gig with my single 4-ohm TC112, assuming that the drummer isn't going nuts and the guitar player hasn't thrown down the glove. In those situations, I bring the TC115, which can more than keep up with stage volume in any band I play in. I'd say wait and try your single TC112 and see how it does.
I would also suggest trying it out first, but I am actually going to sell my TC212, so if you find yourself deciding that you want to go with the 212 just send me a private message. Mine has all of two gigs on it and a few rehearsals. It's basically mint and will come with an Audiokinesis-branded cover from Lecover.
That's cool. The 115 may be the way to go instead of the 212? I REALLY don't like heavy cabs and prefer a cab that I can carry with 1 hand for a long walk and then up a flight of stairs for a load in. If I could do it all with the 112 I would probably never look back.
I suspect the 112 will be enough. I've found the 212 is overkill for my gigging needs. It's kind of astounding how loud it will get. I think I might be able to put out a fire with it. It's definitely not a one-hand carry, though it is light.
Sweet. Can you comment on the difference in tone (if any) between the 212 and the 112? I would assume a little ballsier while still being as transparent?
Also, I have been looking at the Audiokenesis website and it doesn't have much to say about what makes the Hathor series different. Can someone comment on that?
IMO the TC112v1 has more bottom and is less aggressive in the mids than the Hathor1203. Very transparent and clear sounding. I also find it to have better sound dispersion on stage.
The Hathor 1203 is definitely much more aggressive in the mids and has surprisingly good bottom end support considering it's size. But I found you do have to be careful how much bottom you feed it whereas the TC112V1 handles lows much better.
I also notice the website only has 115 in 8 Ohms. Do they not offer a 4 OHM 115 anymore? I know they used to because I briefly owned one 3 years ago.
I agree with the others as far as trying out the TC112 first. The TC112 gets much love here for its power and excellent tone! If your band doesn't compete in volume wars, you could be fine.
Although I use the 1203, and they are 8 ohm cabs, I could use 1 cab for 2/3 of my indoor gigs. My Americana/Classic Country band, the 112 would work fine (excellent FOH support). In the folk/bluegrass gig, a 112 is perfect. In a rock gig that I am doing some work with, I use two cabs.
I do a good number of outdoor gigs (with PA support of course) and I always use two cabs. I could "probably" get by with one, but hey, I've got 'em so I use 'em!
Having the two cabs pushed with a Monique, is just too much fun not to!
Although I use the 1203, and they are 8 ohm cabs, I could use 1 cab for 2/3 of my indoor gigs. My Americana/Classic Country band, the 112 would work fine (excellent FOH support). In the folk/bluegrass gig, a 112 is perfect. In a rock gig that I am doing some work with, I use two cabs.
I do a good number of outdoor gigs (with PA support of course) and I always use two cabs. I could "probably" get by with one, but hey, I've got 'em so I use 'em!
Having the two cabs pushed with a Monique, is just too much fun not to!
I haven't tried the 112 so, unfortunately, I can't speak to any differences. I suspect Tom Bowlus can, however. All I know is the 212 can get brutally loud. It's a very smooth cab, but you do have the ports to play with and two switches, so it has some flexibility.
I think maisbass answered this question well, especially since he has had experience with both.
I will add: the main draw for me to the 1203s was the weight. 24 pounds! You can tote two at one time! Plus I love the mid forward thing that they have going on. Don't get me wrong, they certainly get low enough for me. But I can see where some players would want more.
These are probably the best suited cabs, for my style and tone goals, that I have ever played through. Others have come close, but the 1203 is spot on for what I am trying to achieve. Plus having the two switches are an added bonus.
Oh, and don't forget the weight! Did I mention they were 24 pounds?
I think maisbass answered this question well, especially since he has had experience with both.
I will add: the main draw for me to the 1203s was the weight. 24 pounds! You can tote two at one time! Plus I love the mid forward thing that they have going on. Don't get me wrong, they certainly get low enough for me. But I can see where some players would want more.
These are probably the best suited cabs, for my style and tone goals, that I have ever played through. Others have come close, but the 1203 is spot on for what I am trying to achieve. Plus having the two switches are an added bonus.
Oh, and don't forget the weight! Did I mention they were 24 pounds?
Ok. Nice! I love cabs under 30 lbs! I bet two of them would be killer. I generally like a grindy midrangey tone, not too much bottom, not too brittle highs. Might be something to consider.
It may very well be for the rock stuff. I also play upright and the 112 is the absolute ultimate cab for upright IMHO. When I got my first one 3 years ago I had this aha moment that it was my cabs that were effecting my upright tone, even more than the pickup and the amp.
I also have 2- 1203's and they do sound killer together.
Grindy mids, yeah you will achieve that with the 1203's in spades. As others have stated, you can still smooth them out a bit with the switches on the back.
You can't go wrong with whatever Duke makes!
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