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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

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punchdrunk said:
Alright guys, so I'm having Duke build two Hathor1203's for me... But I'm a bit nervous. My primary rig right now is a Glock HR into a Glock 410.... This rig handles the B string of my Elrick very nicely at full rock volume.... I just received a Mesa D800 today, my question/concern is will the Mesa/ two Hathor setup be able to reproduce the integrity of the low B at gig volume,or will that be too much to reasonably expect from such a diminutive setup???
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I'm sure Todd will confirm the ability of that setup, since he has the 1203s and a D800 that he gigs (even though he is currently using a Hathor and TC). He has gigged with the 1203 cabs for a long time and knows just what they will do.

In reference to anyone considering the 1203 cab:

They have handled any situation I have tried. They have plenty of volume, wonderful tone and I have yet to hear (one or the pair) fart out. Don't let the small size fool (or trick) you. They like lots of power and put out as a result.

With that being said:

* I only play 4 string passive Precisions and Jazz basses.

* I always use an fdeck HPFIII for all of my rigs.

* I prefer a full, slightly mid-forward tone. I can't do the super-low deal. I want solid, balanced tone (think punch, definition, with enough lows, but no mud).

* The switches on the 1203 cabs do a great job of altering the tone.

* Need less mids, flip the lower switch down. Too much highs, flip the upper switch down. Want a rounder, warmer tone, flip both switches down.

* With both switches up, and with the right EQ, they do a great aggressive, grindy tone, which sets perfectly in the gigs I am currently doing. It is a very musical grind, not irritating.

* These cabs, in my opinion, are a perfect match for a Monique. (They also work great with my Thunderfunks and the TH500).

* At 24 pounds each, they are an easy load in/out.

I bought a pair without trying them out. I heard plenty of sounds clips here on TB (a lot of them from nostatic). Since receiving the 1203 cabs, my cab search is over. The tone per pound ratio on these cabs are just crazy!
 
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punchdrunk said:
That's is what raises my caution levels a bit... Is it that the two 1203 stack wasn't cutting it enough? I'm not one for boosted elephantine low end weight, but def use my B string as much as the other 4....
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I play a 5 and my low B never farted out a pair of 1203's. I also don't play extremely loud either.

With that being said I still prefer a TC112v1 paired with a 1203 rather than two 1203's.

The TC 112v1 is a very clean sounding cab and delivers the entire audio spectrum undeniably. It is the best cab I have ever played through. But I do tend to like some mid bite, which is why I always favor my bridge pickup just a tad. So adding a 1203 into the mix adds the right amount of mid bite for me. A truly perfect combination.
 
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Lately I've been using my Smiths with the AK cabs. A single H1203 will get plenty loud - last nostatic gig was guitar trio where we actually got asked to turn down (first time ever at that club). I was running the D800 into the H1203 with no FOH.

That said, it is a small/light cabinet so you have to have reasonable expectations. You're not going to get a huge ultra-low rumble from the cab. You will get a very nice 1st and 2nd harmonic for the B-string though, and it will sit great in a mix. And it is 24 pounds :D
 
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punchdrunk said:
Alright guys, so I'm having Duke build two Hathor1203's for me... But I'm a bit nervous. My primary rig right now is a Glock HR into a Glock 410.... This rig handles the B string of my Elrick very nicely at full rock volume.... I just received a Mesa D800 today, my question/concern is will the Mesa/ two Hathor setup be able to reproduce the integrity of the low B at gig volume,or will that be too much to reasonably expect from such a diminutive setup???
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IME/IMHO, you are going to be fine. I find that a pair of 1203's and a good amp, like the D-800, is more than gig-worthy for my needs, on both 4 and 5-string. :thumbsup:
 
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steubig said:
howdy. so mssr nostatic was nice enough to lend me one of the hathor 1203s for a few days.

i've been going back and forth between my tc112 and his 1203. imho, the cabs are very close, but with some interesting and noticeable differences. whether or not these would be huge differences in a dense band situation, i don't know.

in any event, i thought it might be interesting to do a gutbucket recorded comparison of the two cabs.

you can go to the link below to listen what i did.

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here's a description of what i tried to do:

i used five different fodera 6-string basses: fretted/fretless pair with roundwound strings and rosewood fingerboards;
fretted/fretless pair with flatwound strings and maple fingerboards; a fretted 12-string with roundwound strings and maple fingerboard.

i recorded five loops (one for each bass) into two boomerang 3 loopers. i tried to do a number of different techniques and sounds (though i forgot to use a pick on the roundwound stuff). i also tried to give a fairly good representation of notes on the low B string, chords, harmonics, etc. since some people want to hear how these cabinets sound with "dirt," i used a smallsound/bigsound tafm fuzz pedal (which has a clean blend that i was using) with an octave up mod. i used both the non-octave and octave settings.

using the same amp (tecamp puma 500) with the exact same settings, i played all five loops into both the thunderchild and the hathor, and recorded them live into a 2-track digital recorder. i tried to place the cabinets in exactly the same place and kept the mics in place as well. (i didn't clean my studio, so you hear the room vibrating, etc., at certain points.)

warts and all . . .
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Wow!
The last loop w/ the 1203 in various switching positions really is massively helpful. I could clearly hear a tremendous difference between the various configurations. Excellent!
 
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punchdrunk said:
Wow!
The last loop w/ the 1203 in various switching positions really is massively helpful. I could clearly hear a tremendous difference between the various configurations. Excellent!
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I listened to all of Steubig and nostatic's clips before purchasing my 1203s. I have actually seen posts where people said they couldn't really tell a difference in the switch positions!
I don't have the best hearing in the world (hey, I'm 60) but I can tell a difference with each position. And to me, they are significant differences.

Plus, if you have a stack (2x1203 cabs) you have even more combinations!

I'm sure the difference in switch position would change depending on EQ settings. But with my rig, the switches are very noticeable.
 
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There is one of the H1505 cab out in the "wild". Any thoughts on the cab. If you happen to have a 1203. Have you paired them up? I'll post this picture again
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Mark Sacchetti said:
There is one of the H1505 cab out in the "wild". Any thoughts on the cab. If you happen to have a 1203. Have you paired them up? I'll post this picture again
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It's not out in the wild yet. I'll let everyone know how it compares, combines and stacks with the H1203 as soon as I receive it!
 
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Mark Sacchetti said:
There is one of the H1505 cab out in the "wild". Any thoughts on the cab. If you happen to have a 1203. Have you paired them up? I'll post this picture again
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I've played the 1855, 1505, and 1203 next to each other but not chained. In my opinion, the 1203 is the most balanced, with a really nice strong fundamental with the port plugged. Two of those would be a beast. The first time at practice when you pull that port plug out will be like:
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We'll see how it goes but I'm anticipating the 1505 being my next cab. A perfect combo with the 1203 I have, I bet. The 12 for small gigs, the 15 for more oompphh and both for when I want to be obnoxious. Sounds like a good idea to me! That stack looks beautiful!
 
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dinoadventures said:
I've played the 1855, 1505, and 1203 next to each other but not chained. In my opinion, the 1203 is the most balanced...
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The 1505 that dinoadventures heard had three issues that will be addressed.

First, there was a negative interaction between the switches that I had overlooked.

Second, the mid has an audible peak up at about 6 kHz that I didn't smooth out, but should have.

Third, I made the box a little bit too big. The low end sounds bigger than the math led me to expect, and I'm not looking for a "massive" low end, so I'm going to make the box a couple of inches shorter.
 
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