AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

[Al Kraft]

Personally i don't think I would get a cab with the speaker on the back. The Changeling. But I'm sure i would enjoy a cab with the ability to extend a little LOWER down low.. So teh TALL cab would almost automatically get my attention.. .
I m sure i would go with TWO 1203T types if i wind up doing it.
I tried the greenboy.. It was great. but just not my thing.. Maybe it was the amp i tried it with.. But i did like the Deep low end.
YOu don't find the 1203T to be scooped do you?

I will most likely be using my Genzler MG800 most of the time. Unless i use another ashdown head for some gigs..
Im also guessing the 1203 sounds pretty good with slight OD from a tube amp? Like a Super bassman?

As Tom said, Duke's cabs are not the least bit scooped in the mids and actually giving you some voicing selection switched that allow you to tame the mids a bit or have them a tad more present.

Low end delivery is rich, balanced, and not the least bit muddy to my ear. With all I had read I expected the cab I tried to be too aggressive in the mids and a little shy on the bottom end. I suspect it was that often mentioned low note clarity quality and that Duke's focus is more on a solid delivery of the first harmonic than the fundamental at the bottom of the scale that created my inaccurate expectations.

I found the low end to be excellent in fullness, volume and punch with or without the port plugs. This was especially surprising to me since I'm usually drawn more to ported cabs than sealed ones. Duke has managed to capture the best of both worlds in his cab tuning, and without doing the math and modelling I believe it's that focus on the first harmonic that's a big part of his secret sauce.

 

[noahw1]

Does the "T" version have one or two ports on the rear?

The regular version now has 3 ports so I would imagine the Tall version has 3 as well.

 

[svtb15]

Thank you... Not enough info on the AK site yet..

The regular version now has 3 ports so I would imagine the Tall version has 3 as well.

 

[svtb15]

My friend has a TC115 and it is great .. I've never heard a Hathor or any of his 112 cabs with a paper HF driver. ..
My bud has a very early version of the TC115.. His is also a 4Ω version that was made stock.. His must be 8- 10 years old??Im guessing at the age.
That cab i know sounds real nice.
I found that i liked his cab ( in a home environment) with ALL the ports closed. I have no idea how it would work on a gig with all ports closed.
So the 1203T having 3 ports gives a few interesting options.
OK.. Thinking out loud.

As Tom said, Duke's cabs are not the least bit scooped in the mids and actually giving you some voicing selection switched that allow you to tame the mids a bit or have them a tad more present.

Low end delivery is rich, balanced, and not the least bit muddy to my ear. With all I had read I expected the cab I tried to be too aggressive in the mids and a little shy on the bottom end. I suspect it was that often mentioned low note clarity quality and that Duke's focus is more on a solid delivery of the first harmonic than the fundamental at the bottom of the scale that created my inaccurate expectations.

I found the low end to be excellent in fullness, volume and punch with or without the port plugs. This was especially surprising to me since I'm usually drawn more to ported cabs than sealed ones. Duke has managed to capture the best of both worlds in his cab tuning, and without doing the math and modelling I believe it's that focus on the first harmonic that's a big part of his secret sauce.

 

[Signalsdrone]

Does anyone use a Thunderchild as a cabinet for an electronic drum kit? I've been using my Traynor SB112 with it and it's working out well but I'm jonesing for a new cabinet, one that could work with my bass and the drums as well. If so, which of the Thunderchildren do you think would be best suited for a Roland TD-11?

 

[ajn]

The regular version now has 3 ports so I would imagine the Tall version has 3 as well.

The Changeling Tall has 4 ports.

 

[Al Kraft]

So the 1203T having 3 ports gives a few interesting options.

The Changeling 112T I played had 4 ports an there was noticeable difference in the voicing as you played with the options - not to mention the voicing switches. I genuinely liked that aspect of the cab and found it quite useful.

Sometimes I get the perfect EQ set on my amp in terms of tone and don't want to have to change that to accommodate an acoustically challenging room. In the past I would frequently use a HPF to help me there, now I have cab options as well. Or if I'm giving the FOH tech the perfect tone, but it's a little too much on stage, I can adjust with the cab. There's just a lot of versatility.

OBTW - Duke would be the first to admit that website updating has taken a backseat (or perhaps a seat on the rear bumper) in terms of business priorities. I think he's hopeful that in the meantime forums like this can help folks get real world answers from fellow bass players.

 

[svtb15]

I know. Duke must have his hands full..
The low weight of teh 1203 is amazing too.. I never cared about weight.. ever.
But i had a birthday a few months ago and im counting my blessings.
And i realized i really should be careful and take advantage of what's out there. So I have been clearing house of some gear That i have had for years .. Even sold one of 2 of my old svt 2 non pros.. PLUS,,I don't want to Break A HIP.. LOL

The Changeling 112T I played had 4 ports an there was noticeable difference in the voicing as you played with the options - not to mention the voicing switches. I genuinely liked that aspect of the cab and found it quite useful.

Sometimes I get the perfect EQ set on my amp in terms of tone and don't want to have to change that to accommodate an acoustically challenging room. In the past I would frequently use a HPF to help me there, now I have cab options as well. Or if I'm giving the FOH tech the perfect tone, but it's a little too much on stage, I can adjust with the cab. There's just a lot of versatility.

OBTW - Duke would be the first to admit that website updating has taken a backseat (or perhaps a seat on the rear bumper) in terms of business priorities. I think he's hopeful that in the meantime forums like this can help folks get real world answers from fellow bass players.

 

[allenhumble]

I read in another thread that duke has a map of ak owners. Couldn't find it on his site. Anyone know where I can find this? I'd love to check out one of his cabs.

Also, does he offer covers for his cabs? Might be nice to have a cover with a built in pouch for the port plugs

 

[nutdog]

I read in another thread that duke has a map of ak owners. Couldn't find it on his site. Anyone know where I can find this?

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[Al Kraft]

I read in another thread that duke has a map of ak owners. Couldn't find it on his site. Anyone know where I can find this? I'd love to check out one of his cabs.

Also, does he offer covers for his cabs? Might be nice to have a cover with a built in pouch for the port plugs

He doesn't offer covers that I know of, but LeCover, Tuki, and few other companies like that make nice stuff that fit like a glove from what I've read from reputable folks on this site.

 

[MarkA]

He doesn't offer covers that I know of, but LeCover, Tuki, and few other companies like that make nice stuff that fit like a glove from what I've read from reputable folks on this site.

Quick thought on covers -- I have one for my 1203 and it's nice (I forget, just now, who made it). Padded, fits well, with a cutout that allows you to pick up the cab by its recessed handle (a nice feature of the Hathor). If you're unfortunate enough to have to carry the cab in during the rain, though, some water can get in via the opening for the handle, especially if you have a longer walk. Was thinking that a fully enclosed, duffle-bag type cover might not be a bad idea for smaller cabs -- one that zips fully shut with an exterior accessory pocket (I was thinking for cables -- maybe even a micro amp -- but you could put plugs in there as well).

Perhaps there would be drawbacks to such a bag (it would certainly be more expensive), but just a thought...

Meanwhile, a Hefty bag or two in the car in case of emergencies won't hurt!

 

[tombowlus]

Does the "T" version have one or two ports on the rear?

In the case of the C112T, four:

 

[nostatic]

In the case of the C112T, four:

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I have the same pair - original one port 1203 and 4-port C1203T.

I don't have everything else Tom has though

 

[Al Kraft]

I have the same pair - original one port 1203 and 4-port C1203T.

I don't have everything else Tom has though

...who does?

 

[John D Harris]

Personally i don't think I would get a cab with the speaker on the back. The Changeling. But I'm sure i would enjoy a cab with the ability to extend a little LOWER down low.. So teh TALL cab would almost automatically get my attention.. .
I m sure i would go with TWO 1203T types if i wind up doing it.
I tried the greenboy.. It was great. but just not my thing.. Maybe it was the amp i tried it with.. But i did like the Deep low end.
YOu don't find the 1203T to be scooped do you?

I will most likely be using my Genzler MG800 most of the time. Unless i use another ashdown head for some gigs..
Im also guessing the 1203 sounds pretty good with slight OD from a tube amp? Like a Super bassman?

I strongly suspect that the Hathor 1533 driven by the MG800 would work great as a stage monitor on big stages.
You might also consider it as well as the 2 1203T's.
All other things considered, I rather haul one cab.

Hathor 1533

Or this cab (I can't make up my mind):

Hathor 212

 

[slagheap]

Quick thought on covers -- I have one for my 1203 and it's nice (I forget, just now, who made it). Padded, fits well, with a cutout that allows you to pick up the cab by its recessed handle (a nice feature of the Hathor). If you're unfortunate enough to have to carry the cab in during the rain, though, some water can get in via the opening for the handle, especially if you have a longer walk. Was thinking that a fully enclosed, duffle-bag type cover might not be a bad idea for smaller cabs -- one that zips fully shut with an exterior accessory pocket (I was thinking for cables -- maybe even a micro amp -- but you could put plugs in there as well).

Perhaps there would be drawbacks to such a bag (it would certainly be more expensive), but just a thought...

Meanwhile, a Hefty bag or two in the car in case of emergencies won't hurt!

one of the well known makers mentioned somewhere in this long thread offers a great looking fully enclosed cover. it was more than i needed. i went with Studio Slips basic model for my 2 H1203 cabs.

 

[MarkA]

one of the well known makers mentioned somewhere in this long thread offers a great looking fully enclosed cover. it was more than i needed. i went with Studio Slips basic model for my 2 H1203 cabs.

Danke. I'm not sure I'd need it, either. I've had two rainy load-ins with the Hathor -- first time the recessed "well" for the handle got a bit wet - nothing major -- just some drops -- and I wiped it off when I got inside. The second time it was raining harder and I had a couple of small, plastic bags in the car. I put one underneath the cover, where the opening for the handle is, and grabbed the handle through the bag. Nice and dry when I got inside. Couldn't say the same for myself, but one has to keep his priorities in order.

A "small cab duffle", if close to the ease of use and stow-ability of the simple covers, might be nice if you had a long trek in cruddy weather or for the aforementioned portaging of cables, micro amps, etc. Otherwise, yeah, a normal cover most of the time and a Hefty bag over it if the weather warrants.

 

[Ric Vice]

Does anyone use a Thunderchild as a cabinet for an electronic drum kit? I've been using my Traynor SB112 with it and it's working out well but I'm jonesing for a new cabinet, one that could work with my bass and the drums as well. If so, which of the Thunderchildren do you think would be best suited for a Roland TD-11?

We used it with a older Roland single drum and a cajon, it sound incredible.

Ric

 

[Passinwind]

Does anyone use a Thunderchild as a cabinet for an electronic drum kit? I've been using my Traynor SB112 with it and it's working out well but I'm jonesing for a new cabinet, one that could work with my bass and the drums as well. If so, which of the Thunderchildren do you think would be best suited for a Roland TD-11?

I think the NAMM cab with the top firing secondary tweeter and the heavier duty compression driver would be fab for that.