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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...
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Al Kraft
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Well maybe I'm wrong, but I think that no-slip matting would provide shock absorbency, too. It's rubber and fairly thick...OTOH, you did it already, so hey
Lowendtech
Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
I have to remember this line.It's rubber and fairly thick...OTOH, you did it already, so hey
Sounds like it could be useful.
Lowendtech
Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
Well maybe I'm wrong, but I think that no-slip matting would provide shock absorbency, too. It's rubber and fairly thick...OTOH, you did it already, so hey
I used rubber “feet” to keep my TB1000 from bouncing off the top.
@DukeLeJeune I know you've used both the Faital M5N-80 and Eminence Pro5MRN8 5" mids in various cabs. Can you compare the two in terms of output and frequency response? Are they different enough to chose one over the other? I'm asking because from some of your previous comments it sounds like the specs don't tell the whole story.
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Their efficiencies are very similar, with the Pro5-MRN8 being slightly more efficient according to my side-by-side measurements. By my measurements the M5N8-80 has a dip in the 1.6 kHz ballpark, which is a region where I want emphasis for the sake of a sits-well-in-the-mix grindiness. And overall, I prefer the Pro5-MRM8's response curve - it has the "zig where the guitars zag" shape that I like (which includes that bit of bumpage in the 1.6 kHz ballpark).
(I have seen another company's measurements of the Faital M5N8-80 and the dip that I see in my measurements is present in theirs as well, so I'm fairly confident that it's for real. Just for the record, I have found Eminence's published curves to be consistently reliable.)
Unfortunately Eminence has discontinued the Pro5-MRN8. I bought up the remaining stock of several distributors, so I have enough for my existing orders plus a small stash left over "just in case" (though I'd be very surprised if anyone blows one).
So production of the Hathor 1505 is overlapping that of its replacement, the Hathor 1506, which uses a 6" B&C midrange. The B&C adds about a pound in weight, is a couple dB louder over most of its spectrum, has that "zig where the guitars zag" voicing, but it doesn't go up as high. I'd claim about 6 kHz for the 1506, whereas the 1505 was good to at least 8 kHz (both go higher on-axis but I factor in beaming). Unfortunately the parts cost for the 1506 is a large enough increase that I'll have to bump the price at some point, and it's also a bit more labor-intensive build (more complexicated crossover topology and cabinet internal partitioning).
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So I found one tricky issue with my Birdhaus 4x15. Not sure if this applies to the other variants, but figured I'd share. I've started using the 415 with a project where we get insanely loud. I paired the cab with an Orange Terror Bass 1K and for the first time was able to hear, and feel, what this combo can do to my lower intestines. It's ungodly powerful. Nothing but pure, unadulterated, PBass into my gut and legs. I was dizzy from the experience, honestly. I was running it so hard that the head almost vibrated off of the top of the cabinet. So I devised this mad-max'esque fix. Anchoring two "sushi bar" handles to the outer perimeter of the cab, with the head anchored to them with mini-bungees. I'll be giving this setup the first shakedown tomorrow, but based on the feel while trying to slide and lift the head while bungee'd, I think I just found a very winning combination here. Thanks again for creating this monster cab, Duke!
UPDATE: This works perfectly. We were at full volume again today and not a wiggle. Plus it looks bad to the bone all strapped down.
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I dig the strapped head and bungee look with that big ol cab. Wish I could hear it in action.
I’ll shoot some video at the next practice and post it! Won’t be like experiencing it live, but trust me, you’ll get the point.
I may need to get me a Hathor 1203 for rehearsal use. My Subway 112s get the job done right and proper, and two of them makes me smile every time at a gig, but I would have to say that a 1203 would make an easier one-hand carry up and down stairs (which happens more than I like).
Hmmm...
Hmmm...
I haven't played the Genzler but I do have the 800+. It's a very clean head to my ears. In fact, I prefer the LMlll with the TC cabs because it adds just a touch of warmth. The 800+ is great but I use it more for other instruments than bass when put with the TC cabs because it's so pristine. Just my two cents.
After years of swearing by the versatile Acoustic Image heads (Clarus and Focus for electric and upright and also vocals sometimes), I switched to the D800 after one outing because it sounds musically warm (warmer). I do sometimes add a little from the Voicing knob (around 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock; equivalent to +2 to +5 range I think). There are so many options for great sound now. It's a good place for us all to be.
Interesting...I think the MG800, while sounding very clean and punchy, has a bit of the Streamliner warmth to it so perhaps that's what your hearing in the LMIII. Both of the 800+ and the MG800 are at the top of the heap, so it's going to boil down to what sounds best to me for my tone goals.
Thanks for your feedback...will report back when I have all the gear in house.
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I seriously thought about the Bergantino B amp before buying the D800+. Love that it has cabinet modeling and presets and youtube videos sounded really good. Ultimately, the parameter screen is what made me decide against it, having had bad experiences with effects gear with similar screens and trying to scroll through pages to get at what's needed during a live performance. Maybe that's unfair, but it was the difference. Now that I have the 800+ my only complaint is the type above the knobs is so tiny and is hard to read. I may wind up putting a piece of tape above certain parameters. Otherwise, it's an incredibly versatile head and I'm really enjoying it.
