"The SB112 is available with a 6 inch mid instead of the tweeter for the same prices below. It is called the SB126"
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Avatar SB112 with MID !!!!!! The SB126
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Gotta give Dave some credit once again for listening to TB if correct...
This was suggested a while ago... with his extended Xmax woofer it made too much sense not to come to fruition.
This was suggested a while ago... with his extended Xmax woofer it made too much sense not to come to fruition.
Exactly........
Close the gap between the extended low end woofers and where the tweeter picked up.
Wonder if Dave will start offering this on some other cabs ?
Go to the SB112 page, and read down, in the text of the description it says the 112 is available eith a 6" midrange instead of the tweet. No details however.
John
Wonder what the mid driver is. Also wonder if I should do this to my SB112.
If I had to guess, it is probably the same closed back mid he uses in the TB153
if you search, there are plenty of people who have done it.Wonder what the mid driver is. Also wonder if I should do this to my SB112.
this is the best I could find in short order...
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/adding-6-mid-range-driver-to-cab.770145/#post-10890324
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So, if a person (not me, just some random person) was to buy a pair of these, and get one with the mid driver, and one with the tweeter, would that totally go against everything that is good in this world?
^^^ Might be sweet...
I wonder if Dave will sell them with uncovered raw wood (no carpet/tolex/lineX)? Might want to get a bit artistic or something.
=wr=
I wonder if Dave will sell them with uncovered raw wood (no carpet/tolex/lineX)? Might want to get a bit artistic or something.
=wr=
Definitely intriguing especially at that price. I've been debating whether to ditch my combo for separates since its starting to show its age.
Edit: anyone able to guess the rough weight of one of these? Didn't see it on avatar's website.
Edit: anyone able to guess the rough weight of one of these? Didn't see it on avatar's website.
According to Dave's website, the version of the SB112 with the Neo woofer comes in @ 39 pounds. That's as measured with the tweeter - not the midrange driver. My guess is that the mid-driver would add no more than an extra pound to that.
MM
I wish the technical data was listed. I wonder if the crossover is custom for this cab. It wouldn't be the same for the horn would it? Does the mid cone have an attenuator, etc.? I've almost bought one of these twelves dozens of times. Now I'm tempted again. Little G-K MB200 into it would be a nice, light mini-rig.
HI Guys, Thanks for the interest in the new SB126. Yes, after hearing that a 6 inch mid would complement the 12 well, I finally was able to make one. We tested the existing sealed back Eminence mid that we use in the TB153 and compared it to a new 6 inch open back Eminence mid and the sealed back sounds much better so we went with that. We used the full 12 db two way crossover at about 3900Hz and it works well plus has the volume control so the mid can be dialed in right where you want it to be. We also just designed and added to the bass cab line, a matching 2x10 with tweeter in the same side vented cab. The idea is to have a small stack of a 210 on top of the 112 cab.
What started all of the this was that Fender called me with an incredible truckload speaker deal of all of the new Eminence and Faital speakers left over from the SWR and Genz Benz companies. Amoung the speakers were a couple thousand of the Faital 10PR300 and 12PR300.
My first idea was to do two 16 ohm Faital tens in a 210 cab and do a matching 112 with the Faital 8 ohm 12 so the two 8 ohm cabs would make a standard 4 ohm load. After playing around with them and the Bass Pro box program, we got the 210 to sound as good as possible for having a FS of 65Hz. So, because the 210 is more about hitting real hard rather than going down super low, I knew we'd have to get the low lows out of the 112 cab. The Faital 12 in the 112 sounded good with the Faital 210 but only on a 4 string bass. For a low B, the 12 has to be either the Eminence Delta 12LF ceramic, the Deltalite 2512 Neo LF that is custom for us, or the Kappalite 3012LF. We use the Delta 12LF or the Deltalite Neo in that cab now and it sounds great and have the 3012LFs coming from Eminence next week.
Playing the Faital 210 with the Eminence LFs 112 sound fantastic together on 4 or 5 string. Plus you have the flexibility of using one , the other or both cabs.
Anyway, I just wanted to give some background info on how these two new cabs came to be. I hope that wasn't too long or spammy.
None of this is in the existing antiquated website. We are launching a new transactional website hopefully next week and the new models will be in there with all of the speaker and cosmetic options and pricing. We can ship the cabs with no covering or make the cabs with reverse baffles too.
Again a big thanks to you guys for all of your input and support. Feel free to call or email me during the week with questions or to chat.
Thanks Dave
What started all of the this was that Fender called me with an incredible truckload speaker deal of all of the new Eminence and Faital speakers left over from the SWR and Genz Benz companies. Amoung the speakers were a couple thousand of the Faital 10PR300 and 12PR300.
My first idea was to do two 16 ohm Faital tens in a 210 cab and do a matching 112 with the Faital 8 ohm 12 so the two 8 ohm cabs would make a standard 4 ohm load. After playing around with them and the Bass Pro box program, we got the 210 to sound as good as possible for having a FS of 65Hz. So, because the 210 is more about hitting real hard rather than going down super low, I knew we'd have to get the low lows out of the 112 cab. The Faital 12 in the 112 sounded good with the Faital 210 but only on a 4 string bass. For a low B, the 12 has to be either the Eminence Delta 12LF ceramic, the Deltalite 2512 Neo LF that is custom for us, or the Kappalite 3012LF. We use the Delta 12LF or the Deltalite Neo in that cab now and it sounds great and have the 3012LFs coming from Eminence next week.
Playing the Faital 210 with the Eminence LFs 112 sound fantastic together on 4 or 5 string. Plus you have the flexibility of using one , the other or both cabs.
Anyway, I just wanted to give some background info on how these two new cabs came to be. I hope that wasn't too long or spammy.
None of this is in the existing antiquated website. We are launching a new transactional website hopefully next week and the new models will be in there with all of the speaker and cosmetic options and pricing. We can ship the cabs with no covering or make the cabs with reverse baffles too.
Again a big thanks to you guys for all of your input and support. Feel free to call or email me during the week with questions or to chat.
Thanks Dave
Thanks for the quick response Dave / daveAvatar!
Will the 3012LF have a high enough frequency to use the same crossover point and what is the projected price difference?
Will the 3012LF have a high enough frequency to use the same crossover point and what is the projected price difference?
