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Double Bass Baby Bass megathread

Naw you're not crazy. That's what an Ampeg Baby Bass is..... "the thump", (sounds like the slap on a conga drum). Without it, it's just an ordinary EUB. I've seen many of those and heard what they sound like and in my opinion they sound....meh. I think most don't have any aesthetic value either, (especially the stick looking ones). Just my opinion....

Agreed 100% ... the original Ampeg BB is quite the sight to look at, in addition to its unique/punchy sound.
 
Yep, a few years back I performed at a Country/BG festival that was held in Gainesville, Fl. I was using my BB and many of the BG cats were awed by my Ampeg giving me a breakdown on the ABB history and how BG was a perfect fit for that instrument. I was the one in shock, (I did not know that). Since then I've seen 60's video clips of the ABB being used in that regard including one with Elvis....now that was awesome!
 
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Hello,

I'm considering a KK baby bass.
I would like to know if the KK DB are made with a D or Eb neck ?

Another question, I've often read on french forums that the attack with the right hand must be different with the baby bass than a acoustic db. More "Electric " bass touch, and let " work" the pickup.
I've always found that strange, Depending the setup, string tension, it was propably possible to play both ( Db acoustic and kk) in the same way with the right hand ?

Have a nice day.
 
In trying to get the action down on my '68 Baby Bass, I've found the G string is much lower than the other three. I can tilt the neck to where the G is nearly laying on the fingerboard while the others are still fairly high. This is with the stock aluminum bridge. Now, if this was a wooden bridge, I'd cut the slots deeper for the other strings and then adjust the tilt accordingly. I'm very hesitant to make an irreversible mod to the stock bridge, though.

I put a thin nut between the treble foot of the bridge as a temporary experiment, and it helped, but I'd like a proper solution.

I'm looking for ideas. I've thought about possibly building up the G string slot, but with what? I could go back to the home brew and somewhat crude (not quarter sawn) maple bridge I once made. Or I have a vague recollection of coming across someone who made reproduction aluminum bridges. I'd be more inclined to modify the profile on a repro, if need be.

Thoughts? Thanks!


Hi Bob, sorry for the late reply, I don't make it here that often.

One option might be a replacement (wood) bridge. I got mine from Jentzen Design's Miami FL many, many years ago, so you'll need to confirm if he's still producing these. I got purpleheart and it improved the tone a tiny bit, but it wasn't a giant difference. Perhaps another wood would be more significant.

Hope this helps.
 
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Naw you're not crazy. That's what an Ampeg Baby Bass is..... "the thump", (sounds like the slap on a conga drum). Without it, it's just an ordinary EUB. I've seen many of those and heard what they sound like and in my opinion they sound....meh. I think most don't have any aesthetic value either, (especially the stick looking ones). Just my opinion....

Totally agree. I have an Azola Lightning Bug that I've used on Latin gigs when the BB is in the shop, and while it sounds amazing, it lacks that characteristic 'bounce'. I recently got extremely lucky and picked up an Azola BB-4 (!), so I A/B'ed the two pickups, and that bounce just adds so much more energy and push.
 
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I'm a new '61 baby bass owner and got my bass without a rubber bridge mute, so the sound is very sustainy and feeds back at low volumes without the mute. Is there anyone that makes a replacement rubber crown for the metal bridge for baby basses, or is there an alternative to help get that classic Ampeg sound?

Most of the Latin cats I know including me do not use it at all. Later ones didn't even come with one. There's probably a different issue with yours. It should not feed back at all no matter how close you have it to an amp. ABB's just don't feed back at all. At least that's what I've seen and heard. (And I've seen and heard many of them).
 
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It has a really long sustain which of course assists with feedback. I cut a small piece of foam I had lying around to fit the bridge and it definitely sounds more "classic", but I would love to know if there's a rubber replacement.

Most of the Latin cats I know including me do not use it at all. Later ones didn't even come with one. There's probably a different issue with yours. It should not feed back at all no matter how close you have it to an amp. ABB's just don't feed back at all. At least that's what I've seen and heard. (And I've seen and heard many of them).
 
THIS is the sound I'm after (and yes I know I am not Jymie Merritt, but the thump of that instrument is the vibe):



It has a really long sustain which of course assists with feedback. I cut a small piece of foam I had lying around to fit the bridge and it definitely sounds more "classic", but I would love to know if there's a rubber replacement.
 
Yeah that sounds nice. Too bad you cant record what your ABB sounds like. There were variations of that set up with the rubber damper. Some had the rubber on the aluminum bridge, and I believe some had it on the tail. In either case I don't thing those things are available any more. You will probably have to have it custom made. Here's something else, a lot of us Latin cats remove the aluminum bridge and opt for a wooden one, (custom made of course). In the 1990's Ampeg had contracted with Steve Azola for the re-issue. It too came with a wooden bridge. You might want to try that some day. Did you completely lower the tone button?
 
It has a really long sustain which of course assists with feedback. I cut a small piece of foam I had lying around to fit the bridge and it definitely sounds more "classic", but I would love to know if there's a rubber replacement.
Max, it sounds like you might need to adjust the pickup. I don't have it right now, but if you google the owner's manual, it has the method to do it. I'm sure someone has posted it here, too. @Bruce Johnson would probably know what is up with yours. Cheers to the late Jymie Merritt on his 5 string ABB!

Make sure the tone is all the way down. That's the sound. (although I suspect Jymie might have been one of the few people that didn't turn it all the way down.

It should be thumping without the mute.

It seems most people have come up with home made solutions to this issue as even if you have the original mute, it is 60 year old rubber, and basically hard as a rock.
 
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Hello,

I'm considering a KK baby bass.
I would like to know if the KK DB are made with a D or Eb neck ?

Another question, I've often read on french forums that the attack with the right hand must be different with the baby bass than a acoustic db. More "Electric " bass touch, and let " work" the pickup.
I've always found that strange, Depending the setup, string tension, it was propably possible to play both ( Db acoustic and kk) in the same way with the right hand ?

Have a nice day.
Hi, this is late but I only bought my KK yesterday and maybe this helps. The first photo is where the D would be and the second is the Eb.

As for the technique - I'm a beginner and can't comment, but I remember reading the same thing. As far I remember it had to do with the amount of thump being produced and KK has a wooden bridge and maybe doesn't have the same issue. I can't play it like I would an acoustic upright because the pickup is picking up the resonance so I need to adjust my technique. I've read that (at least) one TB member installed a piezo pickup which made the baby bass sound like an ordinary EUB.
 

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I didn’t even realize Andy had passed—all the way back in April, no less.

So sad... He was a huge reason I decided to start playing baby bass.

I'll miss him. He was one of the NYC masters. I often bumped into Andy in my heyday of Salsa networking. One of the hardest working cats I knew. Every time I did a gig he was on stage performing with Manny Oquendo and Libre. In fact when I got my ABB I had no cover for it. Called him up and stopped by his apt and he gave me his old original Ampeg one. Lasted a few years and long enough to buy a re-issue by Azola. We Bronx brothers are slowly fading away...