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Bergantino AE212; Part 2!!

#361
rodl2005 said:
Realised I hadn't posted a pic of MY AE212 on here................
Cannot have this!!

But CAN have this.
Mesa WA on top of Berg AE212
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I'm just curious about how the ae212 works out with the Walkabout.
 
#363
rodl2005 said:
I've been using my AE212 with ALL my amps- just to see which I LIKE the best with the cab.


with Mark Bass LMII - altho I still love this amp with the AE112 & NV215 I Don't really 'love' it with the AE212- dunno why really, but it just doesn't seem to 'mate' well. Sounds sterile(to me) & doesn't cut thru much. strange- coz it's the opposite with the AE112.

For whats it's worth, I find the MarkBass F-1 to have plenty of cut and punch, that head works so much better than the LM Tube I recently sold which I understand is very similar to the LMII.

I can't imagine any amp that won't sound good with the AE212 if it sounds good with just about anything else.
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#364
I'm finding out that my RH450 isn't jiving too well with the AE212, sounds a bit muddy and dark. Not muddy as in lows running wild but the mids sound congested, unclear.
In contrast I'm really digging the little GK MB200, much clearer, easier to dial in.
Maybe Ken influenced me here but I'm thinking this cab likes heads with a tight and bright voicing.
My short list would incluse the F1/F500, Mesa M6/M9, the GK MB series, and probably the Genz heads with the exception of the Streamliner, the new 9.2 would probably be great.
Looking for more input from you guys who may have tried some of these heads as I'm considering swapping my TC for something else.
 
#365
lookiel said:
I'm finding out that my RH450 isn't jiving too well with the AE212, sounds a bit muddy and dark. Not muddy as in lows running wild but the mids sound congested, unclear.
In contrast I'm really digging the little GK MB200, much clearer, easier to dial in.
Maybe Ken influenced me here but I'm thinking this cab likes heads with a tight and bright voicing.
My short list would incluse the F1/F500, Mesa M6/M9, the GK MB series, and probably the Genz heads with the exception of the Streamliner, the new 9.2 would probably be great.
Looking for more input from you guys who may have tried some of these heads as I'm considering swapping my TC for something else.
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From what I've read through this thread the F1/F500 is the shiz-nits. But contrary to what has or hasn't been posted I've been running my M6 through my ae212 and it has sounded spectacular (IMHO). This has been with a NYC Sadowsky ash/maple with single coil pickups or an older Stingray 5 with highbeams and the amp set flat.

I would REALLY like to hear a Shuttle 9 through the AE212 as several have said great things as I recall.
 
#366
I agree, there is a "thickness" and warmth in the lower mids that tends to obscure the upper mids a tad, however I feel this cabinet sounds a bit more "open" in some areas compared to the AE410 which still sounds like a 4-10 cab to me, albeit a very pleasing tone. I was really conflicted between the two but the form factor on the AE212 is such a joy to schlep.
 
#367
I A/B'ed the Shuttle 9.0 with the F1 on the AE212, and to my ears there was an instant and noticeable difference in the thickness, definition and punch in the low end. This is the main reason I sold both Shuttles and keep the F1 and would buy another as a back up.
 
#369
Aww man, you guys did it again. It's a lot of Ken's fault actually. I just bought me an AE212. (I now have a few "mirror rigs of yours now Ken- AE212+F1+Streamliner+Audiokinesis 112+ VP5) The only one I got before you Ken was the sonic blue VP5. :)
 
#370
Jerry J said:
I'm just curious about how the ae212 works out with the Walkabout.
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The MESA WA works a darn treat thru the AE212 :hyper: I love it. Then again- I haven't yet played the WA thru a cab & have it sound anywhere near bad!!;)

The NV215 is my FAVE cab for the WALKABOUT - then probly the actual 8 ohm SCOUT cab it came with! I LOVE the vintage 'bloom' that cab has, & SUCH projection for a 1x12" EXCELLENT!!!!!

As I mentioned & Doug P. mentions(re the LM Tube v MB F1/F500) - the Mark Bass LMII is MY least fave of MY amps- pity coz I really like the LMII's sound- especially thru the AE112 & NV215(not much sounds bad thru the NV215 either :smug: ) & build quality- just smugly mutters Italian engineering IMO :)
K.Jung also says the LMII is 'nite & day' thru the AE212 compared to the F1/F500. I DID try boosting the mids on the LMII & altho it cut thru the 8 piece band mix OK, it wasn't my favorite tone.
Where the WA & the GB Shuttle 6.0 just seem to ROCK the AE212 perfectly. I STILL think I'll keep my LMII as it does sound lovely thru the AE112 & NV215 & even the HS410.
I love being able to put the VLE @ 8-11oclock & VPF on JUST a tad @ around 7-8 oclock- gives a lovely vintage tone IMO.

Thanx also to G.ROBERTS. Yeah I love the MESA WA in it's headcase, & it on the AE212-to me at least- reminds me ofone of my 1st rigs back in the mid '70's. Only it's 1/2 the weight. :cool:
 
#372
rodl2005 said:
The MESA WA works a darn treat thru the AE212 :hyper: I love it. Then again- I haven't yet played the WA thru a cab & have it sound anywhere near bad!!;)

The NV215 is my FAVE cab for the WALKABOUT - then probly the actual 8 ohm SCOUT cab it came with! I LOVE the vintage 'bloom' that cab has, & SUCH projection for a 1x12" EXCELLENT!!!!!

As I mentioned & Doug P. mentions(re the LM Tube v MB F1/F500) - the Mark Bass LMII is MY least fave of MY amps- pity coz I really like the LMII's sound- especially thru the AE112 & NV215(not much sounds bad thru the NV215 either :smug: ) & build quality- just smugly mutters Italian engineering IMO :)
K.Jung also says the LMII is 'nite & day' thru the AE212 compared to the F1/F500. I DID try boosting the mids on the LMII & altho it cut thru the 8 piece band mix OK, it wasn't my favorite tone.
Where the WA & the GB Shuttle 6.0 just seem to ROCK the AE212 perfectly. I STILL think I'll keep my LMII as it does sound lovely thru the AE112 & NV215 & even the HS410.
I love being able to put the VLE @ 8-11oclock & VPF on JUST a tad @ around 7-8 oclock- gives a lovely vintage tone IMO.

Thanx also to G.ROBERTS. Yeah I love the MESA WA in it's headcase, & it on the AE212-to me at least- reminds me ofone of my 1st rigs back in the mid '70's. Only it's 1/2 the weight. :cool:
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Rod, thank you for your thoughts on the Walkabout/AE212 pairing.
 
#380
I got the AE212 today. Good sounding 2-way. I gave it some 40hz pink noise for about an hour and tried it again. It sounded better. I know someone mentioned sealing the ports but I can't find it. Is it ok to seal the ports on this cab without damaging it? I tried it at low volume and actually prefered it sealed. I can see how it would save you in boomy rooms.
 

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