BL just fired the drummer

[Bodeanly]

It's nine pages of largely factual speculation. Or speculative facts.Theories based on baggage, pop culture, wishful thinking, etc.

No the BL hasn't spilled the beans yet. But my spidey senses are telling me that the fired drummer was in incriminating photos with duck. Ergo komprimat.

You're welcome.

Well, I certainly hope no one decides to private message me any inappropriate photographs. That would ruin my day. By the way, and completely unrelated, here is my phone number: 555-736-2526.

 

[Wood and Wire]

no conspiracy or mischievous or devious behavior. The BL was trying to do what was best for the band.

But it was the old drummer that started the rumours about the new drummer - and made sure they were relayed to the BL via a reliable 3rd party.

It is a conspiracy.

That's an actual fact!

 

[gln1955]

I do not know why the drummer got fired. I figure that one of these days I will find out. BTW, how many of you have marched into your bosses office, slammed the door behind you, jabbed a finger in your bosses face and said, "I demand to know why you fired Chuck!"

If you are in a band as a purely gun for hire, I agree. If, on the other hand, your band members are all more heavily invested in the band, a BL should keep everyone informed about decisons like this. In your OP, you said she would tell you later. That's still a source of unnecessary drama. Either tell you all about it now or not at all.

Anyway, you seem to be OK with all this, so why did you even post about it?

 

[Nev375]

I do not know why the drummer got fired. I figure that one of these days I will find out. BTW, how many of you have marched into your bosses office, slammed the door behind you, jabbed a finger in your bosses face and said, "I demand to know why you fired Chuck!"

I didn't jab fingers in anyone's face or make demands. But I have often asked for reasoning why decisions are made. If I don't get a satisfactory explanation I find a new group. No ultimatums, no drama, As soon as I was able, I just go stating that I don't feel I'm a good fit for the group anymore.

If I don't understand my leader's direction I cannot follow.

How do you know you aren't going to be the next one fired on apparently no more than a random whim? Do you want to invest your precious time and effort into a situation like that? I don't. It's like playing Russian roulette.

 

[Crusher47]

10 moar pages?

 

[oldrocker]

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I do not know why the drummer got fired. I figure that one of these days I will find out. BTW, how many of you have marched into your bosses office, slammed the door behind you, jabbed a finger in your bosses face and said, "I demand to know why you fired Chuck!"
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At work, I've never had to demand to know the reason why someone in my work group was fired, when it did happen we always knew the reason. Usually a firing for cause is not due to a one time occurrence but after a series of infractions accompanied by warnings and recovery steps. This usually does not go unnoticed by others in the immediate area.

In all the bands I've been I've always known the reason why someone was replaced. Again usually the replacement is not due a one time occurrence. Again, whether I agreed or not, these reasons usually do not go unnoticed.

You're right as a BL she is free to replace anyone at any tine for any reason but Your BL told you she would tell you the reason later. The reason that was based on some unknown disturbing information from a 3rd party. She said this to bolster her claim that the reason was valid. By not telling you the reason, after she said she would - would raise a huge red flag to me if I was in this band. IMO, This intrigue is why there is so much speculation in this thread.

Good luck.

 

[SgtHulka]

This thread was such a let-down.

 

[DrMole]

This whole thing sounds off to me. I'm glad it's not my band because I don't like it at all.

If it's personal, it would be between the drummer and the BL. The information wouldn't be from a third party. As it is, it's heresay.

What does "very eliable" mean? A cop? A priest? Someone who says they saw something? Maybe someone who says the drummer did something to them. Or just someone the BL has known longer than the drummer? None of these necessarily make the source reliable, or the accusation true.

You can't fire someone on a suspicion. You need evidence. Actual evidence, not just the word of someone who may (or may not) be "very reliable".

This sucks. Say your drummer is guilty of some heinous crime. First, that would be awful and, depending on what it is, sacking him may be the best thing to do. But BL should definately not be saying anything to you, particularly before it's dealt with. She should sack the drummer first, then call you all together and say she's sacked the drummer. And even then, she shouldn't tell you why, unless it's going to be on the front page tomorrow.

If no contract, You can fire someone for any or no reason.

 

[the yeti]

How did you determine that the drummer is of lower morals and dangerous?

i am omniscient. obviously.

 

[the yeti]

But when given an opportunity to do it, she said that they need to keep their replacement drummer. That's evidence. Now something big has turned up with the drummer and the torches and pitchforks want to assume that the evil bandleader is making up something. So funny.

or was it just an elaborate ruse?

 

[RichardW]

I think this is what we call in the corporate world "leaving to pursue other interests."

 

[DrMole]

I'm just wondering what the drummer has/can be doing that would ascribe legal liability to the band and therefor make immediate termination appropriate? Only thing I can think of are;
1) dealing drugs (or having more than personal use quantities on their person)
2) human trafficking
3) dealing weapons
4) loan shark/numbers

There is likely zero "legal liability" (sic) in this case.

 

[charlie monroe]

or was it just an elaborate ruse?

 

[MultiScaleMale]

or was it just an elaborate ruse?

Read the follow up from OP.

 

[oldrocker]

I think this is what we call in the corporate world "leaving to pursue other interests."

Leaving to spend more time with the family

 

[wintremute]

I would like to apologize to the group. I thought I was posting on TalkBass.com but it seems like I have accidentally posted on ConspiracyTheoriesRUs.com ;-)

Okay let me explain....yet again. The previous drummer was let go because work conflicted with rehearsals and gigs. It's hard to be in a band if you can't show up. Months later he asked to rejoin the group when his work schedule changed but we were already gigging with the new drummer. The BL felt it was unfair to the new drummer and we had already settled in with him. Well the old drummer was upset and kind of pissed off the BL.

Then recently The BL found out something about the new drummer and had to let him go. The BL called me to let me know she was replacing him, but would not tell me why for fear of damaging the drummer's reputation. The BL called me and the rest of the group individually as a courtesy to keep us in the loop of what is going on. That way we would not show up at rehearsal and "Where's Steve?!" "Oh BTW this is our new drummer, Rick, that will be playing with us from now on."

It is the BL's band so there is no reason to make up vicious lies about the new drummer. If the BL does not like the BL for any reason then the BL can let him go. It is an "At Will" band. Again, we all liked the new drummer, got along with him and thought that he played well, though he had a tendency sometimes to rush and overplay a few songs.

I do not know why the drummer got fired. I figure that one of these days I will find out. BTW, how many of you have marched into your bosses office, slammed the door behind you, jabbed a finger in your bosses face and said, "I demand to know why you fired Chuck!"

So the band was without a drummer. The BL cancelled rehearsals. The BL really did not want to cancel upcoming gigs so humbly called the old drummer to see if he would be interested to play. Remember, they were a little bit at odds with each other. The old drummer very enthusiastic about rejoining the band and apologized profusely for his behavior when he got let go. So he is back in the band.

So you see kids, no conspiracy or mischievous or devious behavior. The BL was trying to do what was best for the band.

You level-headed common sense no drama details have no place on this thread! Begone, thot!

 

[Axtman]

Leaving to spend more time with the family

Next time I go on a job interview I am going to tell my possible future employer that the reason why I want the job is to spend LESS time with my family.

 

[DWBass]

So basically..................drummer got fired with no reason given. Well, this was entertaining.

 

[Stringly]

It was the BL in the rehearsal space with a guitar! (he got axed...)

 

[pcake]

BTW, how many of you have marched into your bosses office, slammed the door behind you, jabbed a finger in your bosses face and said, "I demand to know why you fired Chuck!"

So the band was without a drummer. The BL cancelled rehearsals. The BL really did not want to cancel upcoming gigs so humbly called the old drummer to see if he would be interested to play. Remember, they were a little bit at odds with each other. The old drummer very enthusiastic about rejoining the band and apologized profusely for his behavior when he got let go. So he is back in the band.

So you see kids, no conspiracy or mischievous or devious behavior. The BL was trying to do what was best for the band.

no slamming doors, no fingers in faces, but yeah - i would and have asked why someone was fired. also i firmly believe that communication is key to any good working relationship including band members. you may feel differently.

btw, unless the BL is paying you at least a part time wage, with or without gigs, in my eyes she's the leader of the band and musical director but not your boss. others may feel differently.