Bugera Bass Amps???

[phillybass101]

I own a Bugera Veyron. A Fathers Day Present. If you don't like them that's your right. The day you buy me something to play through is the day I'll pay attention to your negativity. Until then I'll play through it whenever I want and I got the extended 5 year warranty . That too was a gift.

 

[phillybass101]

I feel like this quite frankly. Even though this is a Forum, if you didn't pay or help pay for someone elses's gear you're entitled to your opinion, now hear the echo of the rest of my Sentence . My point? I have a Custom Made Brubaker and an SX and a Squier VM P Bass 5. Love em all. I bought them and wasn't thinking of TB at all when I did. Same goes for my Rigs. I have Tecamp Gear and a Bugera. And you won't find me speaking negatively about what someone else has. (Anymore LOL!!!!!) I once stated that Rics were overpriced and that was a mistake. Learned my lesson the hard way. True, to this day I would love to add one to my collection

 

[Ballin'bass]

Have had my Mosfet for a while now and it has become my main gigging amp. Love the power and the clear tone. Would be interested in trying the T version to see the differences.

Interested in buying mine? Brand new condition, not a scratch. I'd do it for a bit less than you'd pay for a new one.

 

[Clark Dark]

My nephew has an MB-800 that he would use with his SWR Megoliath cab. That cab would suck the life out of that amp. He's since bought the Veyron tube and the headroom compared to the MB 800 is ridiculous. The Bugera in this instance kicks the G-K's butt hands down.

 

[SneakyT]

So, I recently purchased a BVV3000. I got it refurbished directly from Music-Group. When I got it in it unfortunately had a damaged back grill even though the box looked fine. I tested it out to make sure it worked and it was a bit quiet. I thought I might as well go through and swap a few tubes to keep from having to ship it back if it was in fact a tube. No big deal for me but it could be for others. It turned out to be a bad 12ax7. I bent the grill back into place, re-glued a piece of the cab that holds the grill and replaced the 12ax7. It was otherwise fine so I figured no big deal considering how cheap I had scored it. I sent them a message letting them know what had happened so they might avoid it in the future with other customers. They were super apologetic and offered a replacement immediately. I was fine with keeping it since it wasn't that big of a deal to me. They offered me a replacement tube so I figured why not. Well, to my surprise, when a package came in from Music-Group it contained a full complement of tubes. Thats right, every tube including 6 6550's. That's above and beyond right there. I sent a message thanking them. Super nice guys and great customer service. They even tried to find me a BC30 refurb since they no longer make them. They didn't but assured me if they came across one they'd give me a heads up. One of best way to judge a companies character is to see how they deal with their mistakes and these guys more than passed in my book.

As to the amp:I heard off posting anything till I had the chance to use it for a while. I've now used it on a few gigs rehearsals and it just kills. Great mid range grit but cleans up well too. More power than I can imagine ever needing but certainly nice to have in the reserves. It's actually hard to dial in a bad sound. The only downsides are the weight (to be expected with all tube head) and that cheesy silver surround around the controls (which I removed and it now looks quite classy). I've had quite a few unsolicited tone compliments which think is rare in the bass world.

If you are looking for an affordable high wattage all tube head I can't recommend the amp or company enough.

 

[BassikLee]

I'm more than happy with my Veyron M. The only question for me is reliability. I have no negative thoughts about it, it simply has not been established. The model is too new. Clean, decent eq, louder than I could ever get away with actually playing. Light, small, affordable.

 

[Sparky Mark]

I like my BVV3000i so much that I have bought a pair of Bergantino HD210 cabs for it to sit on. It sounds fantastic.

 

[MFeleki]

I've heard that when behringer or bugera say an amp has 5500 watts, thats the peak watts. I don't know if this is true, but I guess I'll just stay with my Fender Rumble 500.

The Bugera website says the BVP 5500 is rated at 550 watts and looking at the owner's manual you can determine that they are talking about it's peak power. I can see that they are playing an advertising trick by not stating that it is the peak power but that is nowhere near the claim of saying it is 5500 watts. Plus a quick internet search confirmed the power rating measurement.

 

[Brad Johnson]

I'm more than happy with my Veyron M. The only question for me is reliability. I have no negative thoughts about it, it simply has not been established. The model is too new. Clean, decent eq, louder than I could ever get away with actually playing. Light, small, affordable.

Same here... I don't think I've ever sounded better live and this is the smallest big rig I've owned. Not so much as a single hiccup in all these months of gigging.

 

[SneakyT]

I like my BVV3000i so much that I have bought a pair of Bergantino HD210 cabs for it to sit on. It sounds fantastic.

I've been thinking of updating my cabs a bit. An old friend of mine works for Bergantino now. I may have to talk to him a bit about options.

 

[Sparky Mark]

I've been thinking of updating my cabs a bit. An old friend of mine works for Bergantino now. I may have to talk to him a bit about options.

The HD210 cabs are the perfect width and depth for the BVV3000i and having slightly less low end response than my HT112ER and EX112ER suit the extra depth of delivery from the BVV3000i well.

 

[Right_Butterscotch64]

I owned an original non infinium Bugera 1960 head for about a month. For the $300 used that they go for there really isn't a better value tube head out there.

It was clean with good headroom, and I honestly couldn't get the thing to break up through an 810 since it got so loud.

Tubes were cheap Bugera tubes but other than that it seemed pretty solid.

I only returned it because I had no use for it at the time.

 

[seamonkey]

The Bugera website says the BVP 5500 is rated at 550 watts and looking at the owner's manual you can determine that they are talking about it's peak power. I can see that they are playing an advertising trick by not stating that it is the peak power but that is nowhere near the claim of saying it is 5500 watts. Plus a quick internet search confirmed the power rating measurement.

This kind of thing just isn't a Bugera marketing tactic. It's pervasive throughout the bass gear manufacturers. There's not a single one with honest "measured to a standard", ratings. They all make up their own. If Bugera even says "Peak" then they're saying a lot more than many other brands.

Bugera has to sell heads with relative ratings to other Bugera heads, so I imagine internal to the brand you can compare market specs to each other.

 

[strictlybass_ic]

I bought one of the "premium" 115 cabs (forget the exact model but it was the "better" one). It's okay for low level gear I suppose, but it wasn't nearly up to the task for what I wanted. It ran into distortion range too early, and with too little volume output for me to consider it seriously. I took it back after a couple of days. I tried out one of the Veyron heads at gearfest last year. It actually sounded pretty good for the little bit of noodling I got to do. Other than that I couldn't say much about them.

 

[bordinco90]

Well I ended up buying a Markbass LM800T with the Markbass 4x10 cab. It is amazing!

 

[ProDigit]

I've successfully used Behringer amps for many years.
My first combo amp was a 300w, 12" alu cone combo.
It ran at 180w, and was good enough for the moderate volume gigs. Dials at 12 o clock, meant full volume. With some passive basses I could dial to 2, but anything more was overdriven. I often ran it at max volume setting, and the combo amp is still used to this date, 12 years later.

I recently bought the 300w digital bass head from Behringer, and soundwise couldn't be happier!
Much like tc electronics' 15" combo, as well as the older behringer bass amps, it seems hard to actually get a bad sound out of that amp!
It's so versatile, and I love it. My only complaint would be, cabs with a tweeter sometimes have their tweeter buzz or click.
I'm running the 300 with an Eden 12", 250W coax cab, no clicking, super punchy and deep.

I also used for many years Behringer 4 channel mixer, Behringer eurolive B210D and B208D cabs. They sound very good and loud. The 208D and 210D use digital poweramps of about 200 and 250W. They're great as a personal monitor on stage for synth or EWI or piano/keys.
Also make great personal vocal mic monitors.
For anything like 3 singers, you better use a 210 or 212.

All of these speakers sound very good, and some have lasted me a good 10 years.
I always try to run it below 75%, most of the time below 50% of its rated output.

My first 300W bass head blew up, after I had misread the Ohms reading, and connected 1x8ohms cabs, and 1x4 ohms cabs to the amp. It blew at 2.3ohms, but running either 4 ohms 12", or 2x8ohms 2x6" (for a stack of 4x6" @300W), the new amp I got, worked great!

With that, I would probably advise to be careful about the ohms ratings, and to keep the amp from operating beyond 80% of its maximum.

Most of the time, Behringer rates power at Peak power.
If the amp has 2 outputs, (eg stereo/bridged), or hi/lo output, their 2000w amp's rating would give 1000W rms total, or 500w per channel.
Behringer knows if you run a 500W low frequency cab, you only will need 200W for the top at most, or the sound will be uneven, so you won't ever really go beyond 700W (1400W peak) on these amps anyway.
Besides, if your power line gives 120V, and breaker at 12A, total power transfer before the breaker trips, would be 1640W anyway. Going more would trip the breaker.
At 1400W output, your amp most likely draws 1500W from the grid.

 

[ProDigit]

I even forgot to mention my B205D from Behringer. Great little speaker, and loud for a 5"!
Can I practice bass on it?
Yes. But it's not much louder than an upright or acoustic bass. It's not meant for that. But I'm also bery happy with that one!
So far, aside from one head, none of all my behringer gear (including my horrible sounding behringer vamp pro bass effects head) has ever failed me.
If you want 1000W of sound, get a behringer 3000W power amp, and you'll be good with it.

Their gear is solid, if you are.
The moment you start with fishy wires or short circuit a cable, it'll be the end of the gear.

I looked into this topic because I think Bugera is quite a bargain. Cheap power. However I'm not too sure about sound quality yet.

 

[Blaquepanther]

I mentioned this in another thread a while back. They've been pretty good to interact with thus far for me. Haven't had to deal with them regarding any problems but they certainly have seemed to want to help when I have contacted them. I'd like to think that's a trend that will most likely continue if I ever have issues.....

I'm about to purchase a Bugera rig..i tried some of their stuff and loved it..For the negative people who think this stuff is like the OLD Behringer stuff..IF the newer Bugera equipment was bad, I doubt people like Victor Wooten and Doug Wimbish would showcase them.

 

[ole Jason]

lol You can get anyone to rep your gear at NAMM if you have the money to pay for it.

 

[ebozzz]

lol You can get anyone to rep your gear at NAMM if you have the money to pay for it.

For the most part I'd agree but some guys also value their reputations VERY highly. Those individuals would not want their name associated with something that was bad. Now, I'm not saying that Doug and Vic aren't willing to take a check from some company. I do feel that each of them would much rather keep themselves in a position to earn MORE checks rather than just signing on for something that was clearly not very good quality....