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Can we please stop using "guitard"?

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#241
Chris 'Wighat' Jordan said:
Point completely missed.

We all know the definition of Mexican. It's a person from Mexico. Nothing wrong with that. Now if someone is being lazy and we say "stop acting like a Mexican" are you going to defend that by copying and pasting the dictionary definition of Mexican?
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Actually, you missed the point...

You're talking about context, and I mentioned context based on definition.

You're making my point for me.

In context, guitard refers to someone with a specific behaviour pattern.
A ******** (meaning: out of step with the process) behaviour pattern.

Get it?
 
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#243
I think this topic is a waste of time. Sure the word offenssive thats why people use it. As to your down syndrome example i really would care people will be people and will get offened over anything.
 
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Vlad5 said:
Actually, you missed the point...

You're talking about context, and I mentioned context based on definition.

You're making my point for me.

In context, guitard refers to someone with a specific behaviour pattern.
A ******** (meaning: out of step with the process) behaviour pattern.

Get it?
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You're quoting the definition of the word when used as a verb, but in the context of the word "Guitard," it is being used as a noun. In that context, it is defined as follows:

noun
informal offensive
noun: dufus; plural noun: retards
ˈrēˌtärd/
  1. 1.
    a mentally handicapped person (often used as a general term of abuse).
 
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#249
48thStreetCustom said:
I whole heartedly disagree on this one. Taking offensive language out is like removing minor chords from music because they don't sound pretty. It's like removing all the villains from movies and only having good guys. Offensive words have impact. Most of my favorite artists are outsiders who make lowbrow art. They proudly use offensive language and imagery as a badge of honor waving in the face of conformity.
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Okay. We're clearly different. I've never liked controversial art solely because it is controversial. I always felt that the artist needed that edge to stand out because their art wasn't good enough to do it on its own. It seems you feel differently.

Regardless, my point was that an author doesn't need to use offensive terminology in their writing to tell their story, unless of course they need to in order to portray a character as a bigot, or whatever.

I'm all for villains in movies, otherwise there'd be no story...

I'm just stating that you can still keep your individuality without using offensive terminology.
 
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#251
Nev375 said:
While this is a completely true and valid point; the overuse of such shocking language diminishes the impact as others get desensitized to it.

I rarely use swear words, but when I do, most everyone takes notice because they don't expect that from me. Other people I know swear a blue streak all the time and no one notices what they actually say.

So I do think its smarter to learn to express yourself without using them.
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I've seen new comedians at open mic make this mistake. Every other word is a swear, they talk descriptively about certain adult situations and the jokes just aren't there. The secret is in how you balance it. Offensive comedy is a valid art form but it requires a lot of craft. Making your friends laugh is not the same as being on stage in front of an audience. That said, I really enjoy offensive humor but know full well I draw the line much further than most people.
 
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#252
10cc said:
Because my guitarist is not a guitard. Also I refuse to use that word. But if I was pointing someone out of a crowd and that person happened to be standing by a ******** person, I would say that's him or her next to the ******** person unless someone else next to him or her had something more obvious going on. Thus making it more easy to identify.

******** is real and happens in the millions every year.
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Yes! You're making a distinction about that person by identifying that trait. Although "********" isn't the accepted term any more, but hey. Again, the problem with "Guitard" is we're saying "you suck like a person with developmental disabilities".
 
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Well perhaps.

But when I refer to a guitarist as a guitard, it is in reference to their uncanny knack for mucking up the process, not whether or not they are mentally ********.

More like musically ********.

By the way, I mean no offense to anyone with a mental retardation condition.
But I do mean offense (or at least a lack of respect) for anyone who seeks to r e t a r d the music process with their own ego.

I'll conceded that I may be applying the word differently than others.
I'm not in the habit of referring to anyone as a r e t a r d.

I too have a family member with a mental condition that some may describe as ********.
But honestly, I don't think there is anything wrong with him.
It's just how his mind works. (He's way more intelligent with math than I am, for instance).
 
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Vlad5 said:
Actually, you missed the point...

You're talking about context, and I mentioned context based on definition.

You're making my point for me.

In context, guitard refers to someone with a specific behaviour pattern.
A ******** (meaning: out of step with the process) behaviour pattern.

Get it?
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TOTAL BS!!! When we say "guitard" we are not meaning "********" by some general definition of slowing down like an internal combustion engine's spark advance. The r*tard part of "guitard" specifically references a developmentally or intellectually disabled person.
 
#260
Lots of points missed in this, from all quarters. At least now I have a concrete instance for the example from my sixth-grade English text, "He hopped on his horse and rode madly in all directions."
This thread has become a Gordion knot even Alexander could not undo.
 
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