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Cheap 12 cabs

#21
scottfeldstein said:
Hm. Those Peaveys do look nice. And not too expensive. What do they actually weigh? The Peavey website says "packed" 44 pounds. I don't know what that means. I see a different thread on here where the guy says "30-35 pounds."
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44lbs packed probably means the shipping weight from the factory. They are really big on their shipping weights for some reason
 
#22
revroy said:
There are a ton of great cabs out there now but you have to make some sort of compromise between weight, cost, efficiency, frequency response, and quality of sound. I’d argue that the difference between $300 and $900 over the course of 5 years isn’t very much so I’d choose not to make that one of my compromises and save up or take a deep breath/big swallow and go for the one I really want.

About 4 years ago I was looking for a new 12 cab and looked at Genzler BA12-3, Audiokinesis Hathor 12, Bare Faced, and one of the Fears (I forget which model)... Weight was very important to me as was dispersion. I wanted a nice vocal mid as I usually play fretless and a solid but not mushy bass. I almost added the Avatar 126 but it was heavier than I wanted so dropped it from the list. Mesa, Bergantino, and Baer also were on my radar but I wanted something a bit more... unusual... I ended up going with the Genzler BA12-3 and am still thrilled with it. The bass is solid and round, mids are vocal, and the trebles are present but never harsh. Efficiency is good and dispersion is stellar. I have not played a single gig where I needed more than the single cab. I feel no desire even to consider anything else (except maybe a second one). That said, I expect that I would have been happy with any of the final 4 choices I mentioned. FWIW, I liked it so much I also purchased one of the smaller single 10 bass array cabs and am equally happy with it.
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+1. The BA-12-3 is awesome, very balanced.
 
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#23
I've got two tc electronics RS112's and have nothing but good things to say about them. Kind of a strange looking cab. A 14 inch square that's deep and rear ported with a co-axial tweet. Light weight around 32 lbs but very punchy. I've seen them used for around $200.
 
#25
AudioTaper said:
How is the HF driver on that? I'm pretty sure it's a piezo, does it sound really harsh if you slap? No one around here has one to try I played the PVH212 years ago and loved it, it's just so big for the amount of space I have and is overkill for what I need right now.
Plus it's an 8 Ohm and my little Eden isnt a powerhouse into 8. I guess I would need that WT800 and run it bridged (880WRMS)
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The tweeter is actually very subtle. Sometimes I have to check to see if it's working.
 
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Small cabs create a higher system resonance frequency, effectively increasing the volume on some notes on the bass (likely a and d string notes but depends on the driver in the cab), and reducing low bass extension.

Super small cabs therefore have pros and cons. But I mean if it's designed by the company that put the driver in, it should be appropriately designed.

Nothing wrong with small cabs if they sound good.

My traynor ported 12 with horn is amazing.... with the aftermarket driver. The original driver was ok.... but both are mathematically appropriate for the cab and port, at least.
 
#29
portpc said:
I've had an EDEN EX112 cab for a few years, Very solid cab with a whizzer cone speaker, It has earned back the 269.00 spent on it many times over..
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I own a pair of Eden EX110's and a GK MB500. Each cab handles 300 watts so I'm well under the limit with the MB500. I've played the MB500 with both speakers at outside shows, and friends told me they heard the mini double stack a block away before they heard the singing and guitar. No lie. Each cab weighs 25 pounds. It had to be modified with a second series 1/4" plug added.

I would bet a dollar you won't find a better bang for the buck for weight, volume, bottom end, and value than the Eden EX112's. If you're so motivated, you could buy 3 x 8 ohm cabs and a Mesa Boogie 800 and that head will go down to 2 ohms. I believe you'll have to work pretty hard at straining that setup. Each EX112 weighs 35 pounds, and are easy to carry.

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I have tried sooooooo many 12s.....I love the form factor and output of good 12s! If you want low lows, fEarful is the ticket. For me, Audiokinesis Hathor is the best box out there in terms of all around goodness (tone, weight, form factor, flexibility)....and IMHO is priced well below its' value as compared to the rest.
 
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AudioTaper said:
How are the highs on this one, does it sound muffled or choked if you slap and pop? Again, no one around here has one to try. I like the size and would look great under my WT400
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I've only paired it with a Traynor SB200H but it gets plenty loud with zero breakup regardless of attack, I believe samedaymusic.com is carrying these & they have a liberal return policy, I'd chance it if I were you!
 
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#35
scottfeldstein said:
Hey, folks. I haven't visited these forums in a while. But I had to come back to ask about this. About a year ago I picked up a GK 112 MBX bass cab. The teeny tiny aluminum one that's barely bigger than the 12" driver it holds. Weighs sixteen pounds. I figured maybe it would be good for practicing in my small apartment. Here's the important point: I paid $134.18 for it used from GC.

I recently lent it to a friend for a coffee house gig along with my Ampeg PF-500. We'll see how that works out. It got me wondering again about how useful such a small cab can be. I searched online and to my shock I see that this same cab is being sold, new, for $329. I couldn't find another used one, but I did see an Ashdown VS-112 for $125.99 so I bought it. Maybe it'll be selling for more a year from now.

12 cabs aren't usually found cheap! You'll notice that they're almost always more expensive on the used market than 15s or even 210s. I guess they're the hot items right now. Aging players are finding the sweet spot between performance and weight, maybe? Anyway, I'll soon find out what value that old Ashdown has.

One day I'll invest in a pair of Fear-based 12s and stop all this messing about.
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Investing in a Fear based 12 would be the last time you'll want to change cabs..
For the record, you may not need a pair... a single F112 gets way louder than size dictates.. absolutely love mine
 
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alaskaleftybass said:
I own a pair of Eden EX110's and a GK MB500. Each cab handles 300 watts so I'm well under the limit with the MB500. I've played the MB500 with both speakers at outside shows, and friends told me they heard the mini double stack a block away before they heard the singing and guitar. No lie. Each cab weighs 25 pounds. It had to be modified with a second series 1/4" plug added.

I would bet a dollar you won't find a better bang for the buck for weight, volume, bottom end, and value than the Eden EX112's. If you're so motivated, you could buy 3 x 8 ohm cabs and a Mesa Boogie 800 and that head will go down to 2 ohms. I believe you'll have to work pretty hard at straining that setup. Each EX112 weighs 35 pounds, and are easy to carry.

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I use two Eden 12s at 4 ohms each with a Carvin head. One also works nicely as an extension cab with my AI Contra. I like the Eden cabs!
 
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matthewbrown said:
I use two Eden 12s at 4 ohms each with a Carvin head. One also works nicely as an extension cab with my AI Contra. I like the Eden cabs!
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:thumbsup: Nice to find another Eden fan! I also want to buy David Nordschow's DNA amp and speakers. That's the company he started when he left Eden.

EDIT: The possibility of buying a DNA amp and two speakers is rather slim at this time unless I win the lottery! :laugh:
 
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