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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 7)

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#303
jonno1707 said:
All done and shipping out today for a Friday delivery...:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
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That's beautiful. I'm lovin' the block inlays!
 
#304
Tom7 said:
Wow, that bass gets my juices flowing! Love the shoes there too!
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Thank you for the shoe praise. They are limited edtion John Fluvog's that I bought a few years back. Won't find them again, so I am enjoying them while they are still in good condition.
-Jimmy
 
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So, I'm wondering about an LM5 and how Ash and Rosewood tone would convey compared to the usual Ash/Maple and Alder/Rosewood combos? I seem to favor Ash bodies and Rosewood boards the most, but that is with the Sadowsky Basses I own and have owned. I've also never had a 70's placement.
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KJung said:
IMO and IME the LM5's sound very much like a late 70's passive Fender bass to most of us (it's amazing to see the smile come to the faces of the 70's J guys here in Detroit when they try the LM5!). If you like that tone, you will love the LM5 IMO. One of the things many of us love about the LM5 is that the preamp is quite subtle, and even at relatively high bass or treble boost settings (which I never use), the bass continues to keep it's ' true 70s J' vibe.

And no, turning up the treble on an LG has very little to do with the aggressive tone the ash/maple combo gives you in the upper mids/lower treble IMO. Actually, the preamp on the LG is 'less interesting' to me than on the LM. The LG (for the most part) is all about vintage, passive tone to my ear (I'm considering rewiring the push/pull active/passive control to 'default passive'). The LM with the preamp is more in the spirit of the late 70's 'funk machines' that many of us used back in the day, and many of us installed preamps in those era of basses. Not many did that with the pre/slightly post CBS Fenders that I am aware of.

I gigged for years with an MTD, and they are fine basses, but very, very, very different from the 70's Fender vibe (as you know). If you want a more modern sounding bass that is a bit more punchy than the MTD (i.e., not quite so widely voiced) and still looks and feels like a J Bass, I'd recommend looking at the Sadowsky or Nordy basses.
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#309
Basseroni said:
That's beautiful. I'm lovin' the block inlays!
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+1 I had a Celinder Update with that identical wood and neck spec, and for some reason, that very classic look (natural, black guard, blocks and binding) just didn't quite work for me personally with the more modern body style of the Update. But man, that one is ALL 70's J Bass.

You are going to freak out when you crank it up in a mix!
 
#310
Big String said:
So, I'm wondering about an LM5 and how Ash and Rosewood tone would convey compared to the usual Ash/Maple and Alder/Rosewood combos? I seem to favor Ash bodies and Rosewood boards the most, but that is with the Sadowsky Basses I own and have owned. I've also never had a 70's placement.
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IMO, these basses are quite different than the Sadowsky's, and I would be MUCH less interested in trying to change the vibe from the 'classic' formula myself. If you dig a tone relatively close to a classic 70's J tone, get an LM. If you dig the tone of a more vintage 60's vibe, get an LG. (there's the RA also, but that spec just doesn't speak to me personally). If you aren't that interested in a classic J Bass tone, IMO stick to Sadowsky, etc.

Just my point of view there. I don't think there is a combination that Jimmy would do that wouldn't sound great, but again, my love of these basses is the ability to get a reasonably accurate sound (and actually feel) of what many of us view as the classic 60's or 70's tone in a modern, active 5 string instrument.

I too love my 'strange' combination of ash/maple but with 60's pickup position on my Sadowsky (a combination that Jimmy won't even do!), but it's just a totally, completely different thing to me.

Pure IMO there.
 
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KJung said:
IMO, these basses are quite different than the Sadowsky's, and I would be MUCH less interested in trying to change the vibe from the 'classic' formula myself. If you dig a tone relatively close to a classic 70's J tone, get an LM. If you dig the tone of a more vintage 60's vibe, get an LG.
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...or if you want something else, an RA, 1600, or whatever, and yeah, you really can't use Sadowsky experiences as a compass for AC basses. In other words, +1

Jimmy's capable of building any combo of course, but I think Jimmy's basses are a particularly strong case for sticking with the recommended configurations for best results. I think there's really a "whole being greater than the sum of the parts" thing going on here, so I'd be concerned about altering Jimmy's formula selections myself.

IMHO as usual of course.
 
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Thanks Guys.
More specifically I'm not interested in making an AC with a Sadowsky vibe by any means. I realize that Jimmy's instruments are keyed to the era too and that info all relates well to my questions so thanks. :)

My main question is how do you think a LM would sound with a Rosewood board which is offered by request? I would love to a/b some AC's but that is not easily done. I do appreciate the you tubes and sound bytes which a really a nice reference point.
 
#314
NYJimmy said:
Hey Ace, there are a lot of cat's here that need their Coppolo club member numbers. What gives? Did you stop that? :)
-Jimmy
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Hey Jimmy.......I have been between Philly, Atlanta and Miami with gigs with my Orange Baby.......I haven't been home in almost three months, so I haven't been up on whoLs new and needs a number..........sorry guys and gals.......as soon as I get back to the hotel, I promise to hook everyone up.......just chime in if you need a number......
 
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Big String said:
My main question is how do you think a LM would sound with a Rosewood board which is offered by request? I would love to a/b some AC's but that is not easily done. I do appreciate the you tubes and sound bytes which a really a nice reference point.
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Exactly... test opps are pretty much non-existent since there isn't a preponderance of these things out there... at least with alternate configs, anyway.

I recommend you call Jimmy directly, talk with him about it, and relay the info from the conversation here (please :)). You could also post here, but I think a phone call would be a lot more effective. :)
 
#316
Big String said:
Thanks Guys.
More specifically I'm not interested in making an AC with a Sadowsky vibe by any means. I realize that Jimmy's instruments are keyed to the era too and that info all relates well to my questions so thanks. :)

My main question is how do you think a LM would sound with a Rosewood board which is offered by request? I would love to a/b some AC's but that is not easily done. I do appreciate the you tubes and sound bytes which a really a nice reference point.
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Since I am in the Roger Sadowsky camp of believe that the fretboard has much more impact on tone than the body wood (and that any differences in tone based on body wood is primarily a function of weight and density versus 'type'), my guess is it would sound like some combination of LG and LM (assuming you stick with 70's positioning). If you go with an LG with ash body, my guess is it will sound pretty much like an LG.
 
#317
Chef said:
If you guys hate this, I'll come back and delete it....

I like LaBella flats on precisions; don't like them on Jazz basses so much.

I tried some chromes and liked them better; I'm thinking of trying Sadowsky flats next...

If any of you Jazz-o-philes have specific flats you like, feel free to swerve here, or pm me.

thanks for your indulgence;
alan
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I find the Sadowsky flats closer in sound and feel to the Labellas than the Chromes. I've always liked Labella flats and based on input here I ordered some Sadowsky flats when I got my KBP-5. The sets I received had defective d strings and while waiting for replacements I took the labella's off my LG and put them on the KBP. Needing flats for the LG I bought a set of chromes, the only flats I could find locally, and strung them up. They lasted about a month, I didn't like them at all. The up side of all this is that based on discussions here I tried some Hi-beams, first rounds I've played in 3 years and found a new love of the round wound sound. They've been on the LG since then.

If you want a set of Sadowsky flats, with the defective d string, just to try out pm me your contact info and I'll mail you a set.

Dave
 
#318
fredguy said:
...I ordered some Sadowsky flats when I got my KBP-5. The sets I received had defective d strings and while waiting for replacements...
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If you want a set of Sadowsky flats, with the defective d string, just to try out pm me your contact info and I'll mail you a set.
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...but didn't you get the d strings replaced, or at least at some point you will?
 
#320
Vic said:
...but didn't you get the d strings replaced, or at least at some point you will?
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Sadowsky sent me two new full sets and let me keep the old ones. Customer service at it's best. I figured I'd have an attempt to share them at some point and I'm confident Alan wouldn't try and return them to Sadowsky.

Dave
 
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