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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 8)

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Likely story my friend:rollno:

I know a lot of you guys are also Sadowsky owners, funny thing is my office is only 30 minutes from the shop and I have yet to buy one. I am sure I will join in on the fun at some point. What radius do you guys prefer on the NYC JJ basses? And what get's you closest to the feel of your AC?
Well, personally, I don't consider them in the same space, so neither would really be a replacement for the other IMHO, which may be the reason you've never really felt the need to get one, if the AC is pretty much everything you need and want. Absolutely NO problem with that!!

However, just to generally say what I like, the standard 12" radius on Roger's basses works great for me, but I also REALLY dig the 10" radius Jimmy uses on his basses... just sorta' completes the theme.
 
Sadowskys are great basses but I could never get one to "speak" to me in the way I wanted. I guess my ears are just used to the vintage growl more than the modern thing.

I'm in your camp in general. However, once I got the Sadowsky single coils in my non routed ash/maple Vintage, it brought that bass much more into my 'tonal space'. That being said, it is still much more 'modern', bright, and big down low than the LM. The singles really fatten, growl and warm up the Sadowsky tone though IMO.

Given that my Sadowsky has 60's pickup spacing, but is ash/maple, and with the aggressive single coils (made for Roger by Seymour Duncan), it REALLY does that 'favor the back pickup' sort of growly burp thing as well as any bass I've ever heard.

However, I rarely play anything but the LM (and RA in some cases) on gigs any more:bassist:
 
Interesting I thought you guys might have more Sadowsky love.
Oh heck no. I love my Sadowskys, but they don't eat the AC's cheese at all, IMHO. That's why I kinda' pushed back on comparing the two in terms of trying to get one to sound like the other.

BTW is Jimmy shipping with strap locks or do I need to inquire about that?
You probably need to inquire.
 
Interesting I thought you guys might have more Sadowsky love.

BTW is Jimmy shipping with strap locks or do I need to inquire about that?

I dig my Sadowsky a lot also. It really is just a different thing than the more 'classic' sounding and feeling A-C's.

Not sure about the straplocks. I would call. You might be able to send him a set for him to put on if it isn't an option that he provides.
 
Not sure about the straplocks. I would call. You might be able to send him a set for him to put on if it isn't an option that he provides.
Yeah, I was just thinking I couldn't remember if I had to send mine in to him or not. I know I had to with another vendor, just can't recall if I did with Jimmy or not. Regardless, Peter, check with him and find out for sure. :)
 
Well I finally got my Rootbeer LM4 today and its a great bass but there are a few issues.
The bass has 5-6 hair-thin, fine scratches on the front upper horn(one almost 10 inches long) they can only be seen in the light but still...
I ordered it with(and paid for) a Badass bridge which wasn't included and finally the rear control plate is a piece of textured(ugh) plastic and isn't even cut to fit the cavity, there are gaps in 3 places.
Considering how much I paid for the bass and how long I waited, I expect excellence and got, well......sub quality.
I sent Jimmy an email and am waiting to see what he says about it. I just wanted to build a great relationship with a luthier that I believe in (like I had for 10 years with Fodera which unfortunately, I had to sell during a divorce and can't afford to replace). What can I do?
 
If I sold a piece of used gear to someone and had that kind of (variance) feedback from the buyer I would be horrified (and would do whatever I had to to make it right), let alone a brand new piece. Bummer...please let us know how the situation is handled.

Good luck
 
Well I finally got my Rootbeer LM4 today and its a great bass but there are a few issues.
The bass has 5-6 hair-thin, fine scratches on the front upper horn(one almost 10 inches long) they can only be seen in the light but still...
I ordered it with(and paid for) a Badass bridge which wasn't included and finally the rear control plate is a piece of textured(ugh) plastic and isn't even cut to fit the cavity, there are gaps in 3 places.
Considering how much I paid for the bass and how long I waited, I expect excellence and got, well......sub quality.
I sent Jimmy an email and am waiting to see what he says about it. I just wanted to build a great relationship with a luthier that I believe in (like I had for 10 years with Fodera which unfortunately, I had to sell during a divorce and can't afford to replace). What can I do?

This is a no brainer. Send it back and get your money back. I wouldn't even think twice about it. No big deal. Buy something else. The good news about buying an instrument from a reputable luthier is that there is zero risk.... if you aren't satisfied, they will give you your money back. Period.

Not sure what happened with this bass (since Jimmy seems to have a perfect track record to this point), but regardless of the company, if I'm not 100% happy with an instrument, back it goes. Simple.

That being said, through the years, you've REALLY had bad luck with custom instruments. Strange.
 
Dont sweat it bro Jimmy is a stand up dude and fantastic at adressing issues plus it sounds like yours are fairly simple;
I bet he can buff the clear coat out and your scratches will be gone than just install a badass bridge and cut a new control cover...He is swamped and gearing up for bassplayer live and NAMM just around the corner which is probably how this one slip thru the cracks...
Call him up...
Well I finally got my Rootbeer LM4 today and its a great bass but there are a few issues.
The bass has 5-6 hair-thin, fine scratches on the front upper horn(one almost 10 inches long) they can only be seen in the light but still...
I ordered it with(and paid for) a Badass bridge which wasn't included and finally the rear control plate is a piece of textured(ugh) plastic and isn't even cut to fit the cavity, there are gaps in 3 places.
Considering how much I paid for the bass and how long I waited, I expect excellence and got, well......sub quality.
I sent Jimmy an email and am waiting to see what he says about it. I just wanted to build a great relationship with a luthier that I believe in (like I had for 10 years with Fodera which unfortunately, I had to sell during a divorce and can't afford to replace). What can I do?
 
This is a no brainer. Send it back and get your money back. I wouldn't even think twice about it. No big deal. Buy something else. The good news about buying an instrument from a reputable luthier is that there is zero risk.... if you aren't satisfied, they will give you your money back. Period.
Jimmy told me that he doesn't give refunds. Period. The first time was when I bought a LM5 and didn't like it, he said no refund so I sent it back and traded if for the Rootbeer 4 (which he also told me was against his policy)
The 2nd time that I was told "no refunds" was when, on the advise of a TBer, I mentioned a refund because my replacement LM4 was taking so long(almost a year to the day from when I ordered it)
 
That being said, through the years, you've REALLY had bad luck with custom instruments. Strange.

Not really, just with Celinder (never a quality issue with Celinder, just the whole Cristian being a flake)and now with AC(issues with wait time and now quality). Before that I was with Fodera for 10 years and NEVER had anything like this happen, wish I had never sold my Foderas.
 
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