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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 9)

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thndrstk6 said:
Chrome.

The black looks good because it matches with the dots and pickguard well but I think it makes it look cheaper.

The chrome is more classic and classy.
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+1. Since these basses are meant to vibe classic instruments, black hardware is a bit of a disconnect, as is the 'no guard' thing, and/or a fancy top. It all looks good though, but those features, which can work wonderfully on other bass lines, really take the A-C to a place where they really aren't really meant to go IMO.

Had a great New Year's gig with the LM and the AE410/TC450 rig... grinding and thumpin'!
 
#662
Bass7755 said:
Thank you so much for the offer Pete!! :) But, I think I'm going to put TI Flats on it.
I'm still going to give the Sadowsky Blues a little more time.

BTW... when I started playing bass in 1971 (yes I'm old). I hated flats.
When I put a set of Rotosound strings on my '73 P bass...wow!!:hyper: I have never
wanted to go back to flat's...untill now. You guys suck...:p:D
Thanks guys!! Dan
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Not only have I never had any interest in flats, I've never really had interest in a P bass without a J pickup....That was until I got the KBP5 and it has really changed my outlook significantly. It so not a sexy tone when playing at home and even on a gig during sound check it can be uninspiring. I've even had various keyboard players and drummers comment, you gonna use that thing it's got no top end. I even continue to doubt it myself and then at the end of a set everyone says "holy S!@#" what were you doin' back there, that thing is killin it.
 
#665
Hi Peter. No. it is not going to happen .. ughhhh.
Im sorry..That work has been postponed without a set date yet..

And I love LI in the winter and family cooking too..

peterpalmieri said:
Hey Kirk....

Do you have your NY dates set yet? I'd like to get mini GTG organized with Gil and Jonno now that the holidays have passed. Anyone else local NY Metro want to get involved?
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#668
Sean Baumann said:
Hey Butler,

Looking at your profile, you have my old Sadowsky! How do you like it?
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Sean,
I am really diggin your old Sadowsky w/ Single coils. I also saw that you traded the Smith I sold for an 18mm version. I think Rodney just picked up another Smith.
Steve

peterpalmieri said:
Cool that's what I'm thinking too...

EDIT: You were freakin' nuts to even think about selling that thing!
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Peter,
Glad you are liking the KPB5. Yes I was nuts to sell that one. It is one of the few basses I've regretted selling. I am not a P bass guy, but that bass just works with a band. Also, the neck on that KPB5 is the one of the best I've felt. Jimmy did a great job on that one.
Steve
 
#669
The Butler said:
I am not a P bass guy, but that bass just works with a band.
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+1

This is one of my laments. I just love the way a P sounds in a mix when I hear another band play and the bassist is using one, but, the times I've tried a pure P bass (as opposed to a PJ) I just can't play that sound all night long... I just gotta' have my bridge pickup sometimes. If Jimmy ever does come out with a PJ5, I'm gonna' be in a world of hurt. :)
 
#670
Vic said:
+1

This is one of my laments. I just love the way a P sounds in a mix when I hear another band play and the bassist is using one, but, the times I've tried a pure P bass (as opposed to a PJ) I just can't play that sound all night long... I just gotta' have my bridge pickup sometimes. If Jimmy ever does come out with a PJ5, I'm gonna' be in a world of hurt. :)
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Thats exactly how I hear it as well.. Theres a few old school players in town that use P basses with flats and I love the tone/sound, but I can't play without that J pickup at the bridge..
 
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^P conversation

So I've never been a P bass guy nor am I a flat wound guy. BTW I got a screamin' deal on the KBP5 with Dalbergia you would all be sick if I told you....I thought it would be a fun novelty and I couldn't possibly really gig a bass without a bridge pickup and especially with flats. Well maybe a jazz group but never a club date band...

I was so convinced on the same principals as the past few posts. First the P body sits perfectly and is so darn light. I really didn't love the tone even during sound checks (cool but not me), thought it sounded ok for some of the classic rock stuff and Motown but wasn't blown away. Then I had a friend come up on stage at one of my gigs and played a few tunes. It was like I heard the voice of god, no ****....I still can't warm to the slap tone but I am kind of forcing myself to commit a little more to the bass and I haven't been disappointed yet.
 
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KJung said:
+1. Since these basses are meant to vibe classic instruments, black hardware is a bit of a disconnect, as is the 'no guard' thing, and/or a fancy top. It all looks good though, but those features, which can work wonderfully on other bass lines, really take the A-C to a place where they really aren't really meant to go IMO.
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For me, the vibe is in the more in the sound then the aesthetics. Ya, I am not a purist, but if I can get that tone, but with looks that apeal to me that are not completely vintage I am totally cool with it. This is why there maybe an order soon from me. Trying to raise some funds.

Also, for a true vintage vibe, wouldn't there need to be a metal contol plate under the knobs. I prefer the looks without the metal plate but I always think that 90 degree cut on the pickguard looks a bit "disconnected" I may opt for the Vic version without the guard for that reason.
 
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Saluki said:
For me, the vibe is in the more in the sound then the aesthetics. Ya, I am not a purist, but if I can get that tone, but with looks that apeal to me that are not completely vintage I am totally cool with it. This is why there maybe an order soon from me. Trying to raise some funds.

Also, for a true vintage vibe, wouldn't there need to be a metal contol plate under the knobs. I prefer the looks without the metal plate but I always think that 90 degree cut on the pickguard looks a bit "disconnected" I may opt for the Vic version without the guard for that reason.
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+1 Whatever floats your boat on these, of course. However, I don't like to mess with the luthier's formula. I love the way the headstock and the 'phantom plate' (i.e., the plate cutout on the guard and traditional knob layout 'suggesting' the classic J layout and 'vintage look') 'updates' the classic look while still staying true to it.

No guards, black hardware, fancy wood tops, etc..... of course, pure personal choice, and surely no impact on tone... but it just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Pure IMO there. I assume that is why 90%+ of us (guessing on that % based on all the posts and what I've seen come through Jimmy's shop on his site) just let Jimmy 'do his thing':bassist:

Pure IMO there.... I just love that 'updated, personalized, vintage' look for these things myself!
 
#679
I got to spend some more time with Jimmy this past weekend and as I get to know the man I am starting to really understand where he is coming from with his instruments... Yes, he is all about the classic stuff and doing things the way they were done but a big thing that I've heard him say more than a few times is that he does some things in the way he thinks they should've been done. So as true to the original as these basses are, they are still Jimmy's instruments done his way. My first A-C will be a classic 70's J in looks and sound but the one after... Oh man! It's awesome to have a builder that can give you the classic sound you want in a fancier looking instrument if you so wish.

I can't wait to tell or show you guys what he's got for NAMM... Exciting stuff!
 
#680
Saluki said:
Also, for a true vintage vibe, wouldn't there need to be a metal contol plate under the knobs. I prefer the looks without the metal plate but I always think that 90 degree cut on the pickguard looks a bit "disconnected" I may opt for the Vic version without the guard for that reason.
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I think that Jimmy's standard look is the perfect balance of being true to the vintage Fender image while also having it's own unique identity. I'll put it like this - if you are playing a show with one of these basses and someone that isn't too knowledgeable about bass gear sees it, they'll think its a Fender. However, to anyone who knows Alleva Coppolo, it will be instantly recognizable as an AC, even from far away, because of the unique look he has with the pickguard/no plate. While I love many of the other update jazz designs, on many of them you would have to get close enough to read the headstock to know what it is, which takes away a little from the individuality.
 
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